Sponsored

Carli Suspension system King Shocks coming soon. Interesting Steering linkage

Carli-Dan

Wildtrak
Well-Known Member
Squatch Sponsor (Level 3)
First Name
Dan
Joined
Feb 23, 2023
Threads
2
Messages
96
Reaction score
385
Location
Lake Elsinore, CA
Vehicle(s)
2021 Bronco
Your Bronco Model
Wildtrak

redone17

Black Diamond
Well-Known Member
First Name
Chris
Joined
Mar 6, 2021
Threads
61
Messages
3,912
Reaction score
4,428
Location
Cold Spring, NY
Vehicle(s)
2021 Bronco, 2020 Ranger
Your Bronco Model
Black Diamond
@Carli-Dan - any plans for a read sway bar? Particularly one for those with a 2021 that don’t have the frame mounts?
 

Carli-Dan

Wildtrak
Well-Known Member
Squatch Sponsor (Level 3)
First Name
Dan
Joined
Feb 23, 2023
Threads
2
Messages
96
Reaction score
385
Location
Lake Elsinore, CA
Vehicle(s)
2021 Bronco
Your Bronco Model
Wildtrak
@Carli-Dan - any plans for a read sway bar? Particularly one for those with a 2021 that don’t have the frame mounts?
After ripping ours through 1,000 miles of all terrain Baja had to offer, i don't subscribe to these needing rear sway bars. I doubt we'll do anything of the sort for this reason.
 

Sponsored

orion

Black Diamond
Well-Known Member
First Name
Jeremy
Joined
Nov 23, 2020
Threads
12
Messages
829
Reaction score
1,693
Location
Colorado
Vehicle(s)
17' F-250, 17' Explorer
Your Bronco Model
Black Diamond
Clubs
 
After ripping ours through 1,000 miles of all terrain Baja had to offer, i don't subscribe to these needing rear sway bars. I doubt we'll do anything of the sort for this reason.
What about us rock crawlers. Tinkerer's Adventure on YouTube did some testing on his FJ. No front swaybar and a rear swaybar helped the front IFS articulate more! Just saying... you would have a market, how big, I don't know but there is a market.
 

redone17

Black Diamond
Well-Known Member
First Name
Chris
Joined
Mar 6, 2021
Threads
61
Messages
3,912
Reaction score
4,428
Location
Cold Spring, NY
Vehicle(s)
2021 Bronco, 2020 Ranger
Your Bronco Model
Black Diamond
What about us rock crawlers. Tinkerer's Adventure on YouTube did some testing on his FJ. No front swaybar and a rear swaybar helped the front IFS articulate more! Just saying... you would have a market, how big, I don't know but there is a market.
Exactly.

@Carli-Dan - you have Kings on. Not all of us are so fortunate. I am tired of rocking boat around turns. First step is SVC collars. Maybe one day I can afford real coilovers. But, I will likely prioritize gearing.
 

Tex

Wildtrak
Well-Known Member
First Name
Cliff
Joined
Nov 15, 2021
Threads
4
Messages
1,381
Reaction score
2,399
Location
San Angelo
Vehicle(s)
Bronco
Your Bronco Model
Wildtrak
Clubs
 
After ripping ours through 1,000 miles of all terrain Baja had to offer, i don't subscribe to these needing rear sway bars. I doubt we'll do anything of the sort for this reason.
Bolt a big tire carrier with two jerry cans and a hi-lift jack on the ass end of a 2DR, the OEM sway bar is barely enough to prevent a wobble at speed. A rear swaybar would be a lot more helpful than a front in that situation, and you gain more articulation as the solid axle will leverage the swaybar in torsion compared to IFS that won't. And this is coming from someone that habitually removes sway bars from everything because they're dumb.
 

Carli-Dan

Wildtrak
Well-Known Member
Squatch Sponsor (Level 3)
First Name
Dan
Joined
Feb 23, 2023
Threads
2
Messages
96
Reaction score
385
Location
Lake Elsinore, CA
Vehicle(s)
2021 Bronco
Your Bronco Model
Wildtrak
Bolt a big tire carrier with two jerry cans and a hi-lift jack on the ass end of a 2DR, the OEM sway bar is barely enough to prevent a wobble at speed. A rear swaybar would be a lot more helpful than a front in that situation, and you gain more articulation as the solid axle will leverage the swaybar in torsion compared to IFS that won't. And this is coming from someone that habitually removes sway bars from everything because they're dumb.
We have a steel bumper, lighting, 37" spare, and hammerbuilt spare tire brace - definitely have more than a standard Bronco hanging off the rear.

That said, we have currently only worked with 4-door Broncos; the wheelbase works in our favor here. Additionally, we design and build parts that are part of our holistic approach to suspension design. All our products are designed and made to compliment each other. In most situations (Steering, Bumpers, Sliders, Front Upper Control Arms, etc.), despite our design intent, our parts do not depend on the others with which they were designed to function optimally.

In this case, the front sway bar heavily relies on the coilovers as it designed to maximize the performance of our custom-tuned King 2.5" Shock Package. As the sway bar has only been installed & tested with these shocks on a 4-door, that's for what the part is optimized.

With all this installed, there's no need for a rear sway bar. If we were to add more weight to the rear, we have the flexibility to up the spring rate and modify the shock valving to match the new load. That said, i do not think a couple Jerry-cans and hi-lift would be noticed in this environment. Shortening the wheelbase to that of a two door would certainly compound it.

Once we get into the 2-Door world, we'll likely need to rethink some products to better interface with that wheelbase - time will tell!
 

Carli-Dan

Wildtrak
Well-Known Member
Squatch Sponsor (Level 3)
First Name
Dan
Joined
Feb 23, 2023
Threads
2
Messages
96
Reaction score
385
Location
Lake Elsinore, CA
Vehicle(s)
2021 Bronco
Your Bronco Model
Wildtrak
Exactly.

@Carli-Dan - you have Kings on. Not all of us are so fortunate. I am tired of rocking boat around turns. First step is SVC collars. Maybe one day I can afford real coilovers. But, I will likely prioritize gearing.
Yeah, as stated above, the Torsion Sway bar compliments our Shocks - it was not tested with OEM or other coilovers. I am sure it would have the same effect on any remote res 2.5" diameter shock package but, those with smaller shocks and added weight, may get excessive body roll with the design.
 

Sponsored

Carli-Dan

Wildtrak
Well-Known Member
Squatch Sponsor (Level 3)
First Name
Dan
Joined
Feb 23, 2023
Threads
2
Messages
96
Reaction score
385
Location
Lake Elsinore, CA
Vehicle(s)
2021 Bronco
Your Bronco Model
Wildtrak
What about us rock crawlers. Tinkerer's Adventure on YouTube did some testing on his FJ. No front swaybar and a rear swaybar helped the front IFS articulate more! Just saying... you would have a market, how big, I don't know but there is a market.
Yeah, the concept that a stiffer rear suspension will "push" on a front suspension could be helpful in some situations but i would argue it's only good until the front wheels have crested and the rear can't articulate as needed to optimally clear the obstacle as there's a sway-bar trying to hold them parallel to the chassis. This is, of course, situation dependent and anecdotal at best.
 

IwannaGOfast

Badlands
Well-Known Member
First Name
Jon
Joined
Jan 6, 2022
Threads
11
Messages
670
Reaction score
1,083
Location
Brea, CA
Vehicle(s)
1991 Ranger Long Travel, 2014 Cruze Commuter
Your Bronco Model
Badlands
Not sure what exactly it will be, but its a replacement rear cargo storage box.

Curious to see what your intentions are.
 

BAUS67

Base
Well-Known Member
First Name
redneck
Joined
Jan 3, 2020
Threads
22
Messages
4,521
Reaction score
13,085
Location
Central PA
Vehicle(s)
88 5.0 LX, 08 F-150 Stepside, 22 Expl Timberline
Your Bronco Model
Base
Clubs
 
Not sure what exactly it will be, but its a replacement rear cargo storage box.

Curious to see what your intentions are.

My first thought as well.
Sponsored

 
 



Top