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@Carli-Dan - any plans for a read sway bar? Particularly one for those with a 2021 that don’t have the frame mounts?
 

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@Carli-Dan - any plans for a read sway bar? Particularly one for those with a 2021 that don’t have the frame mounts?
After ripping ours through 1,000 miles of all terrain Baja had to offer, i don't subscribe to these needing rear sway bars. I doubt we'll do anything of the sort for this reason.
 

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After ripping ours through 1,000 miles of all terrain Baja had to offer, i don't subscribe to these needing rear sway bars. I doubt we'll do anything of the sort for this reason.
What about us rock crawlers. Tinkerer's Adventure on YouTube did some testing on his FJ. No front swaybar and a rear swaybar helped the front IFS articulate more! Just saying... you would have a market, how big, I don't know but there is a market.
 

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What about us rock crawlers. Tinkerer's Adventure on YouTube did some testing on his FJ. No front swaybar and a rear swaybar helped the front IFS articulate more! Just saying... you would have a market, how big, I don't know but there is a market.
Exactly.

@Carli-Dan - you have Kings on. Not all of us are so fortunate. I am tired of rocking boat around turns. First step is SVC collars. Maybe one day I can afford real coilovers. But, I will likely prioritize gearing.
 

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After ripping ours through 1,000 miles of all terrain Baja had to offer, i don't subscribe to these needing rear sway bars. I doubt we'll do anything of the sort for this reason.
Bolt a big tire carrier with two jerry cans and a hi-lift jack on the ass end of a 2DR, the OEM sway bar is barely enough to prevent a wobble at speed. A rear swaybar would be a lot more helpful than a front in that situation, and you gain more articulation as the solid axle will leverage the swaybar in torsion compared to IFS that won't. And this is coming from someone that habitually removes sway bars from everything because they're dumb.
 

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Bolt a big tire carrier with two jerry cans and a hi-lift jack on the ass end of a 2DR, the OEM sway bar is barely enough to prevent a wobble at speed. A rear swaybar would be a lot more helpful than a front in that situation, and you gain more articulation as the solid axle will leverage the swaybar in torsion compared to IFS that won't. And this is coming from someone that habitually removes sway bars from everything because they're dumb.
We have a steel bumper, lighting, 37" spare, and hammerbuilt spare tire brace - definitely have more than a standard Bronco hanging off the rear.

That said, we have currently only worked with 4-door Broncos; the wheelbase works in our favor here. Additionally, we design and build parts that are part of our holistic approach to suspension design. All our products are designed and made to compliment each other. In most situations (Steering, Bumpers, Sliders, Front Upper Control Arms, etc.), despite our design intent, our parts do not depend on the others with which they were designed to function optimally.

In this case, the front sway bar heavily relies on the coilovers as it designed to maximize the performance of our custom-tuned King 2.5" Shock Package. As the sway bar has only been installed & tested with these shocks on a 4-door, that's for what the part is optimized.

With all this installed, there's no need for a rear sway bar. If we were to add more weight to the rear, we have the flexibility to up the spring rate and modify the shock valving to match the new load. That said, i do not think a couple Jerry-cans and hi-lift would be noticed in this environment. Shortening the wheelbase to that of a two door would certainly compound it.

Once we get into the 2-Door world, we'll likely need to rethink some products to better interface with that wheelbase - time will tell!
 

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Exactly.

@Carli-Dan - you have Kings on. Not all of us are so fortunate. I am tired of rocking boat around turns. First step is SVC collars. Maybe one day I can afford real coilovers. But, I will likely prioritize gearing.
Yeah, as stated above, the Torsion Sway bar compliments our Shocks - it was not tested with OEM or other coilovers. I am sure it would have the same effect on any remote res 2.5" diameter shock package but, those with smaller shocks and added weight, may get excessive body roll with the design.
 

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What about us rock crawlers. Tinkerer's Adventure on YouTube did some testing on his FJ. No front swaybar and a rear swaybar helped the front IFS articulate more! Just saying... you would have a market, how big, I don't know but there is a market.
Yeah, the concept that a stiffer rear suspension will "push" on a front suspension could be helpful in some situations but i would argue it's only good until the front wheels have crested and the rear can't articulate as needed to optimally clear the obstacle as there's a sway-bar trying to hold them parallel to the chassis. This is, of course, situation dependent and anecdotal at best.
 

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Not sure what exactly it will be, but its a replacement rear cargo storage box.

Curious to see what your intentions are.
 

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Not sure what exactly it will be, but its a replacement rear cargo storage box.

Curious to see what your intentions are.

My first thought as well.
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