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So if I am reading this correctly
Jeep will have new options in 2024, that customers will be able to get in 2024

Before a lot of people who ordered Bronco's in 2021 can get theirs.
Define “a lot”. It might be a lot less than you think.
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The 392 has a long way to go to beat out the Braptor, granted it is faster off the line, but one of these days a real tune will become available and close the gap.
Hmm, yeah no. V8> Ecoboost. If I won a raptor id sell it so I could buy a 392.
 

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This has been happening since the days of the YJ. Mid-cycle refresh. Not really a big deal. Parts may be in response to the bronco, but it would be happening whether or not a g6 Bronco ever existed.

Granted we haven’t seen it yet, but I’d argue this is the wimpiest mid cycle other than maybe the YJ switch from sport to family bars.
 
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Hmm, yeah no. V8> Ecoboost. If I won a raptor id sell it so I could buy a 392.
Not trying to start an argument, but have you ever driven a Braptor and a 392? Outside of the engine and true rock crawling, I do not see where Jeep wins but if those are more important to you, I understand your reasoning.
 

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Too bad it's still a Jeep. ;)
 

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As much as I love my bronco, if it got totaled and I had to replace it I would not pay ADM nor would I wait months again. I'd order a Wrangler immediately.
Exactly I ordered my Bronco 12/21 Then ordered my new Jeep 1/22 got it early March paid alot under MSRP due to work discount drove it for 7 months put 12000 miles on it and got MSRP in trade for my Bronco on 10/27/22
 

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Not trying to start an argument, but have you ever driven a Braptor and a 392? Outside of the engine and true rock crawling, I do not see where Jeep wins but if those are more important to you, I understand your reasoning.
Yes, I’ve driven a 392 Jeep and I owned a Scat Pack 392, the engine is absolutely amazing. I just don’t like the raptor, I think it’s tacky looking. I’m sure it’s fun to drive, but given a choice, it wouldn’t be my choice.
 

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I've driven 2dr and 4dr JL's all over the southwest, for a solid axle they are phenomenal on road and light years ahead of the JK's and earlier models.

While I love the Bronco, I'm really looking forward to the next Wrangler. Excited to see where Jeep responds to the Bronco but also where they set the Wrangler further apart. I have to imagine they double down on the things the Wrangler does better.
 

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I have to imagine they double down on the things the Wrangler does better.
I bet the mirrors won't be on the doors on the next Wrangler.

And for doubling down, if I were them I'd be touting the SFA all day long as more "off-roady".

Plus I bet the cabin gets bigger.
 

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Right! Who would have known that actually having competition would force JEEP to update a vehicle which is intentionally kept as ancient as possible.

Like Toyota keeping drum brakes on cars into the 2010's, Jeep has a way of shilling cockroaches as butterflies.
I have drum brakes on a 2022 car…
 

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I don't assume these new companies are worse than the previous ones. I think the Jeep has less issues now than it ever did in its history considering the capability. I'm more concerned about Ford reliability than Stellantis to be honest with you, and this is coming from a Ford guy.
Ford guy here too. I've owned Jeeps built by Ford (GPW), Willys, Kaiser, AMC and Chrysler. No Fiat or Stellantis. The Chrysler was the best the AMC the worst. Just my experience.
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