Do you consider it a manual when it's shifted by electro hydraulic actuators and has no clutch pedal? And that funky little rotary dial, seriously? Anything you can put into D and hit the road I'll call an automatic so yes.
Has it been confirmed that it's going to be assembled in China? Getrag is a multinational transmission manufacturer based in Germany with quite the pedigree. They make transmissions for everything from Fiat to Ferrari. Getrag makes great transmissions.
That was a choice based on application. The Tremec Box is a better solution for a borderline dedicated track car. It's a manual with a computer to shift it. Less driveline loss, no torque converter, faster shift times. Regardless of strength of the 10R80, the Tremec is a better choice for the given application and intended use case. Say what you will about Ford, but they do a great job at matching engine/transmission selection to application (See 3160 in the GT350 and Mach-1)
I hope it last
I don't necessarily consider it a manual, but I certainly don't consider it an automatic. I grew up when an auto was a slushbox and, for the time being, it still is to me.
It’s clear they they weren’t particularly happy about it either.
The SMG was indeed the exact same transmission as the manual in the M3. Same internals, you can even convert the SMG into a manual.I don't necessarily consider it a manual, but I certainly don't consider it an automatic. I grew up when an auto was a slushbox and, for the time being, it still is to me.
I had an E46 M3 with an SMGII. The best way to describe that to anyone, even "car guys", was to call it a manual transmission with a computer controlled clutch. It had nothing in common with a traditional automatic. I would argue that a DCT has significantly more in common with the SMGII and a true manual than it does the 10R80.
Stupid anecdote time. Instructor at the track didn't understand the SMGII and asked me to keep it in the shift itself mode. I was dismayed, but knew better than to argue with an instructor. In the middle of a corner the damn thing changed gears and all of a sudden he's screaming at me for a stupidly timed shift. I tersely explained the transmission to him again to which he replied, "Well, I thought it would be smooth because it's automatic!"
GM auto trannies are shit too. My 6l80 lasted 125k mi? Granted I was hard on it. But come on! It’s factory power. Didn’t realize that whirring sound was my torque converter going out until tranny went out about 5-7k mi later. I’m not a fan of auto trannies. Never have been since I bought my first car. 74 impala 400small block tranny slipped. Replaced. Slipped. Rinse repeat. Manual, clutch goes out. Drop it change clutch and bolt back together. And far cheaper.
That’s why I’ve stated in this and another thread automatics will NEVER be as reliable as manuals. Only ones thinking opposite are those that can’t drive manuals or know nothing about them. Fact of the matter is more parts=more problems. 3spd. Pretty damn good, 4spd? Not bad. 5,6,8,10.....problems and more problems. I don’t care if you baby the vehicle. Transmission ;auto) won’t last past 200k mi and you’re VERY lucky if it does. Manual? Without changing the clutch, you can probably get there. Far cheaper. And easy DIY cheap fix.I have NEVER seen an auto last the life of the truck,i have seen manuals do that and be pulled out to live a happy life in another truck. Clutches are the wear item but proper driving can prolong them for quite a run.
Tell ford to stick their 15 speed pos up their ass ,2.7 stick,5.0stick make the bronco a real truck.
One thing im absolutly sure you will be paying more than 1895.00 at some point.
