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Both Road Armor and Warn say you can't tow your Bronco with their bumpers
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Both Road Armor and Warn say you can't tow your Bronco with their bumpers
As in, the Bronco can’t be towed with their bumpers installed? Newb question, but is that common with aftermarket bumpers, or bumpers with winches
 

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As in, the Bronco can’t be towed with their bumpers installed? Newb question, but is that common with aftermarket bumpers, or bumpers with winches
Not sure but I think they don't want any liability. I think the tow hooks on the Ford bumper are bolted to the frame and these are welded to the bumper.
Seems odd though that Warn says theirs is good for 12k pulling power but it can't support it's own weight (6k or less)
 

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It still annoys me the modular front bumper can't fit a winch behind it. What was the point in Ford even designing it. The Ford option is terrible looking imo.
 

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I've called or researched a few of these, so I figured I'd include what I've found or heard from folks on these. The main thing I wanted to find out was:
  • Lead/wait times as of 10/5
  • Compatibility with parking and ACC sensors, front facing camera
  • Compatibility with factory skid
  • Lighting options
I regret I didn't ask about weight on any of them.

4 Wheel Parts - https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/4-wheel-parts-factory-bronco-front-bumper-61268w/_/R-4WPBR-61268W
$1200 + $400 for the winch plate
  • Lead time is 6-8 weeks
  • Blocks front facing camera (mostly)
  • ACC bracket included that mounts the ACC sensor slightly forward, but in the same location in front of the intercooler
  • Works with factory skid
  • Cutouts for 6in foglights
  • Works with parking sensors
Lifestyle Offroad - https://lifestyleoffroad.com/shop/ols/products/2021-ford-bronco-winch-bumper
$1,965
  • Doesn't block camera
  • No support for ACC or parking sensors (as of now, they are working to address both of these things and determined to do so)
  • Includes replacement skid plate
  • No foglights or other lighting options
MaxliderBros - https://shop.maxliderbros.com/colle.../2021-ford-bronco-custom-front-modular-bumper
$3200 + $1229 (for optional brushguard)
  • Does not block front facing camera
  • Supports factory parking sensors
  • Two ACC bracket options: Can be mounted in the bumper or behind the grill with a provided bracket. Some winches won't work with the in bumper mount and require grill mounting, some will allow it to fit in front of the winch.
  • Supports ditch lighting
  • Includes new skid plate
  • Covers crash bars
  • 12-14 week lead time
  • Made by ADD
ADD - https://www.addictivedesertdesigns.com/ford-bronco-winch-front-bumper
$2400
  • May partially block camera
  • ACC relocation bracket available to move ACC sensor behind bumper
  • More lighting options than other bumpers
  • Works with factory skid
  • 3-4 month wait
  • If you don't want the center light, there is no cover, just a hole
Rough Country - https://www.roughcountry.com/hidden-winch-mount-51054c.html
$309
  • Will not fit mod bumper or 2.7l (trans cooler in the way)
  • Winch types seem restricted to RC or HF winches only (could be mistaken)
  • Places winch behind intercooler
  • Replaces factory skid
  • No impact on ACC or camera
Ford - https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/ford-accessory-winch-kit-now-available-for-2021-bronco.23033/
$3500 MSRP (looks like you can get it for ~$3k or slightly less)
  • Works with mod bumper
  • Blocks ACC, camera, and parking sensors
  • Winch included
  • Factory option, so all wiring/etc is included
Bodyguard - https://www.bodyguardbumpers.com/bronco-base-front-bumper-winch-mount
$1745 (no guard/light), $2020 (guard/light), + other options
  • Works with ACC relocation, moves it behind mesh on the bumper
  • Lead time is 3-4 weeks as of 10/6
  • Camera on the base bumper is not blocked, Baja relocates it
  • Works with parking sensors
  • Replaces factory skid, 10-ga skid and bumper
  • Can use black fasteners instead of silver
Warn Elite - https://www.warn.com/elite-front-bumper-for-2021-ford-bronco-with-grille-guard-tube-107856-2 or https://www.warn.com/elite-front-bumper-for-2021-ford-bronco-no-grille-guard-tube-107870
$1699 w/o guard, $1799 with guard MSRP (cheaper links below via Northridge 4x4)
ARB Summit (No manufacturer page up yet that I could find, see link below from Northridge)
  • Lead/wait times: Waiting on an ETA from ARB, they should have one soon.
  • Compatibility with parking sensors: Yes
  • ACC sensors: Yes
  • Front facing camera: Yes, but it does block a little (no more info on how much yet)
  • Compatibility with factory skid: Yes
  • Lighting options: Drilled for aftermarket fog lights
  • Bumper to Flare width: ARB split the difference so it will look good on either stock or Sasq.
  • Thanks to @Tech Tim for the info, purchasing links through him here -> (https://www.northridge4x4.com/part/front-bumpers/3480010-arb-summit-winch-front-bumper)
Current in development (limited details):
Icon - https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/thre...-icon-intro-from-icon-vehicle-dynamics.24784/
Bay Area Metal Fab - https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/bay-area-metal-fab-front-bumper-for-2021-bronco.23580/

I spoke to ADD, Maxlider, and 4WP on the phone, all were responsive and helpful with questions. I similarly emailed with Lifestyle back and forth, who was real helpful with his experiences wheeling the Bronco near me and his plans.

None of the ACC brackets require recalibration according to folks I spoke with, but may require some fiddling with it to get it to work properly. It sounds like you have to "aim" it. I read some forum posts on the F-150 and Ranger that moved it behind the grill, some worked flawlessly while others had on again/off again issues with it. Bodyguard indicated you might have to go to the dealer to have it recalibrated or reflashed, but I doubt that's unique to them.

Most winch mounts that do not block the camera seem to reduce approach angle somewhat.

If I got anything wrong or missed any, let me know, I'll update the post.
Of all of these, I think the ADD is my favorite. My Badlands is scheduled for production for the week of 11/29, so I probably won't get mine till January. Once I get the Bronco in my possession, I'll re-review the options available and decide. I definitely want to keep all the sensors and Front camera functional (I have a Warn EV S 10k winch and will likely relocate the solenoid if necessary) and keep the approach angle decrease to minimum. Thanks for starting this thread.
 

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Of all of these, I think the ADD is my favorite. My Badlands is scheduled for production for the week of 11/29, so I probably won't get mine till January. Once I get the Bronco in my possession, I'll re-review the options available and decide. I definitely want to keep all the sensors and Front camera functional (I have a Warn EV S 10k winch and will likely relocate the solenoid if necessary) and keep the approach angle decrease to minimum. Thanks for starting this thread.
ADD lead time is 14-16 weeks. I have them working on my bumper as we speak. I'll have a pile of pieces waiting for my '22 Wildtrak. The ADD is the best looking winch bumper IMO for the new Broncos.
 

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great work, thanks for putting all this together in one post!

Of course the one I'd want is the most expensive, as usual, LOL. I would not buy any that block anything I already bought, including even a 'bit' of camera, that would just tick me off every day.

Luckily winch is something I definitely will not buy for the cool looks (I don't even like the look, hence my pref for hidden), but only if I start doing trails where that might actually be a must have. Promised myself to only add things I will actually use when I decided to splurge on Badsquatch. Neither winch or lights will be a must have for a while and hopefully prices will drop and more options show up. That Maxlider does look very nice though, with that bull bar. (stop looking at it Oliver, remember what you promised yourself! LOL).

Thanks again for collecting all this in one place, really helpful!
 

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I plan on eventually replacing my front bumper so I stuck with the capable bumper that comes standard now on '22 Badlands.

I want to see what the aftermarket comes up with for bumpers / winch combos as well as some more photos of people that have taken the plunge and have the front camera to show what is or isn't blocked.

Not to mention the capable bumper gives me fogs :)
 

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great work, thanks for putting all this together in one post!

Of course the one I'd want is the most expensive, as usual, LOL. I would not buy any that block anything I already bought, including even a 'bit' of camera, that would just tick me off every day.

Luckily winch is something I definitely will not buy for the cool looks (I don't even like the look, hence my pref for hidden), but only if I start doing trails where that might actually be a must have. Promised myself to only add things I will actually use when I decided to splurge on Badsquatch. Neither winch or lights will be a must have for a while and hopefully prices will drop and more options show up. That Maxlider does look very nice though, with that bull bar. (stop looking at it Oliver, remember what you promised yourself! LOL).

Thanks again for collecting all this in one place, really helpful!
I don’t think you have to do tons of off-roading to justify a winch. It floods a lot here in Houston, and I imagine someone could use a winch to help pull cars out of high water.
 

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Are there any options to mount a winch directly onto a modular bumper? I don't have parking sensors or cameras in the front, so not worried about that. 2.3 L so no intercooler. Any solutions?
 

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Are there any options to mount a winch directly onto a modular bumper? I don't have parking sensors or cameras in the front, so not worried about that. 2.3 L so no intercooler. Any solutions?
The Ford option would do this
 

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I've called or researched a few of these, so I figured I'd include what I've found or heard from folks on these. The main thing I wanted to find out was:
  • Lead/wait times as of 10/5
  • Compatibility with parking and ACC sensors, front facing camera
  • Compatibility with factory skid
  • Lighting options
I regret I didn't ask about weight on any of them.

4 Wheel Parts - https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/4-wheel-parts-factory-bronco-front-bumper-61268w/_/R-4WPBR-61268W
$1200 + $400 for the winch plate
  • Lead time is 6-8 weeks
  • Blocks front facing camera (mostly)
  • ACC bracket included that mounts the ACC sensor slightly forward, but in the same location in front of the intercooler
  • Works with factory skid
  • Cutouts for 6in foglights
  • Works with parking sensors
Lifestyle Offroad - https://lifestyleoffroad.com/shop/ols/products/2021-ford-bronco-winch-bumper
$1,965
  • Doesn't block camera
  • No support for ACC or parking sensors (as of now, they are working to address both of these things and determined to do so)
  • Includes replacement skid plate
  • No foglights or other lighting options
MaxliderBros - https://shop.maxliderbros.com/colle.../2021-ford-bronco-custom-front-modular-bumper
$3200 + $1229 (for optional brushguard)
  • Does not block front facing camera
  • Supports factory parking sensors
  • Two ACC bracket options: Can be mounted in the bumper or behind the grill with a provided bracket. Some winches won't work with the in bumper mount and require grill mounting, some will allow it to fit in front of the winch.
  • Supports ditch lighting
  • Includes new skid plate
  • Covers crash bars
  • 12-14 week lead time
  • Made by ADD
ADD - https://www.addictivedesertdesigns.com/ford-bronco-winch-front-bumper
$2400
  • May partially block camera
  • ACC relocation bracket available to move ACC sensor behind bumper
  • More lighting options than other bumpers
  • Works with factory skid
  • 3-4 month wait
  • If you don't want the center light, there is no cover, just a hole
Rough Country - https://www.roughcountry.com/hidden-winch-mount-51054c.html
$309
  • Will not fit mod bumper or 2.7l (trans cooler in the way)
  • Winch types seem restricted to RC or HF winches only (could be mistaken)
  • Places winch behind intercooler
  • Replaces factory skid
  • No impact on ACC or camera
Ford - https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/ford-accessory-winch-kit-now-available-for-2021-bronco.23033/
$3500 MSRP (looks like you can get it for ~$3k or slightly less)
  • Works with mod bumper
  • Blocks ACC, camera, and parking sensors
  • Winch included
  • Factory option, so all wiring/etc is included
Bodyguard - https://www.bodyguardbumpers.com/bronco-base-front-bumper-winch-mount
$1745 (no guard/light), $2020 (guard/light), + other options
  • Works with ACC relocation, moves it behind mesh on the bumper
  • Lead time is 3-4 weeks as of 10/6
  • Camera on the base bumper is not blocked, Baja relocates it
  • Works with parking sensors
  • Replaces factory skid, 10-ga skid and bumper
  • Can use black fasteners instead of silver
Warn Elite - https://www.warn.com/elite-front-bumper-for-2021-ford-bronco-with-grille-guard-tube-107856-2 or https://www.warn.com/elite-front-bumper-for-2021-ford-bronco-no-grille-guard-tube-107870
$1699 w/o guard, $1799 with guard MSRP (cheaper links below via Northridge 4x4)
ARB Summit (No manufacturer page up yet that I could find, see link below from Northridge)
  • Lead/wait times: Waiting on an ETA from ARB, they should have one soon.
  • Compatibility with parking sensors: Yes
  • ACC sensors: Yes
  • Front facing camera: Yes, but it does block a little (no more info on how much yet)
  • Compatibility with factory skid: Yes
  • Lighting options: Drilled for aftermarket fog lights
  • Bumper to Flare width: ARB split the difference so it will look good on either stock or Sasq.
  • Thanks to @Tech Tim for the info, purchasing links through him here -> (https://www.northridge4x4.com/part/front-bumpers/3480010-arb-summit-winch-front-bumper)
Current in development (limited details):
Icon - https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/thre...-icon-intro-from-icon-vehicle-dynamics.24784/
Bay Area Metal Fab - https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/bay-area-metal-fab-front-bumper-for-2021-bronco.23580/

I spoke to ADD, Maxlider, and 4WP on the phone, all were responsive and helpful with questions. I similarly emailed with Lifestyle back and forth, who was real helpful with his experiences wheeling the Bronco near me and his plans.

None of the ACC brackets require recalibration according to folks I spoke with, but may require some fiddling with it to get it to work properly. It sounds like you have to "aim" it. I read some forum posts on the F-150 and Ranger that moved it behind the grill, some worked flawlessly while others had on again/off again issues with it. Bodyguard indicated you might have to go to the dealer to have it recalibrated or reflashed, but I doubt that's unique to them.

Most winch mounts that do not block the camera seem to reduce approach angle somewhat.

If I got anything wrong or missed any, let me know, I'll update the post.
Excellent work!

I’m looking for a winch bumper solution that is also rated for flat towing. Any chance of adding the flat towing capability to the criteria?

I know the Warn is not, per an email exchange with them along with an earlier post on this thread (along with Road Armer per that poster).

I‘m pretty sure the Ford modular winch solution maintains the capability to attach tow bars directly to the factory recovery points.

Not sure about the others.
 
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The Ford option would do this
Is that the 3500 winch? Was looking for other options that were a little less expensive. I don't plan on using it all that often.
 
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Is that the 3500 winch? Was looking for other options that were a little less expensive. I don't plan on using it all that often.
Ya, that is correct unfortunately.
 

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