Dealer Documentation etc fees?

[Virtual-Chris]

I haven’t bought a new vehicle in many years. What’s the normal fee Canadian dealers are tacking on these days? Does it vary by dealership?

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[Lilj4425]

It will vary from state to state due to the sales tax on the vehicle and what not but here’s a good article on what to expect: https://www.creditkarma.com/auto/i/dealer-fees-buying-car

 

[Virtual-Chris]

It will vary from state to state due to the sales tax on the vehicle and what not but here’s a good article on what to expect: https://www.creditkarma.com/auto/i/dealer-fees-buying-car

Thanks... but I want to know how much Canadian dealers are charging, which is why I posted this in the Canadian forum

ps I guess the forum context is not clear if you’re monitoring the latest posts.

 

[Lilj4425]

Thanks... but I want to know how much Canadian dealers are charging, which is why I posted this in the Canadian forum

ps I guess the forum context is not clear if you’re monitoring the latest posts.

Ohhh crap. I didn’t even notice that. My bad.

 

[parropski]

Depends on the dealer I suppose.
I'm familiar with 2 ford dealers here in Ontario.
One has NO fee the other has a $850 documentation fee.

 

[Virtual-Chris]

Two I've been in contact with in BC charge $599 and $699.

I thought car buying had evolved where this kind of add-on fee was history, but I guess not. It's a shameful practise. Imagine going to Canadian Tire to buy a grill and when you get to the checkout, the clerk is adding a $30 fee. Why can't Ford just ensure the pricing includes adequate margin for the dealer in the price so we don't need to go through this nonsense? Ugh.

 

[Wanted33]

Two I've been in contact with in BC charge $599 and $699.

I thought car buying had evolved where this kind of add-on fee was history, but I guess not. It's a shameful practise. Imagine going to Canadian Tire to buy a grill and when you get to the checkout, the clerk is adding a $30 fee. Why can't Ford just ensure the pricing includes adequate margin for the dealer in the price so we don't need to go through this nonsense? Ugh.

I couldn't agree more. We have dealers in my area of the U.S. that charge up to $979 in doc fees. They give you a decent price then stick it to you at the end of the deal. The thing I really hate is they'll look you right in the eye, and tell you the fees are mandatory. Which is a lie.

 

[BigHoof]

I wouldn't focus on the actual fee as much as the total out the door price when comparing dealers.

 

[Virtual-Chris]

I wouldn't focus on the actual fee as much as the total out the door price when comparing dealers.

Of course, that would be great advice normally, but in a situation where there are no incentives, discounts, or any whiff of moving off MSRP, the various fees are relevant. In this case, a dealer that doesn't charge a fee will get my business before one that does.

 

[BigHoof]

Of course, that would be great advice normally, but in a situation where there are no incentives, discounts, or any whiff of moving off MSRP, the various fees are relevant. In this case, a dealer that doesn't charge a fee will get my business before one that does.

That's too bad no dealers in Canada are offering any discounts. In the US, some are.

 

[Rednek]

in most cases if you can get at msrp your winning!

 

[Virtual-Chris]

That's too bad no dealers in Canada are offering any discounts. In the US, some are.

Yeah, I've seen that, but that seems like a win-lose type of situation... you may save, but at what cost with respect to delivery? Certainly these dealers are just queuing up buyers that will not see vehicles until mid-decade! You might as well wait for initial lease returns to save!

 

[Bronco4lyfe85]

Depends on the dealer I suppose.
I'm familiar with 2 ford dealers here in Ontario.
One has NO fee the other has a $850 documentation fee.

$850?!?! That’s absurd! I remember my last dealer said they had a $500 document fee, I told him that fee was bullshit and I refused to pay it. They obliged.

 

[Virtual-Chris]

$850?!?! That’s absurd! I remember my last dealer said they had a $500 document fee, I told him that fee was bullshit and I refused to pay it. They obliged.

I'd love to be able to say that, but I don't really have any leverage being late in the queue on a vehicle that's not likely to materialize for another 6 months to a year.

 

[Bronco4lyfe85]

I'd love to be able to say that, but I don't really have any leverage being late in the queue on a vehicle that's not likely to materialize for another 6 months to a year.

Sure you do. What are they going to do? Spank you? Cancel your order? It is a bullshit fee and it’s pure profit, there’s no such thing as a document fee. Are they paying someone $800 an hour to file paperwork?

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