Dealer insists it’s 6 quarts for oil change on my 2.7L

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Sounds like another dipstick part revision will be coming down the pike, too.

Here we go.....Looks like Philly is gonna have to eat some crow

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[bytheway]

FSE just got back and said 6 qt. A SSM is supposed to be coming out soon.

LMAO. You should find your correspondence where the engineer confirmed 7qts and reply “what happened?”

 

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LMAO. You should find your correspondence where the engineer confirmed 7qts and reply “what happened?”

Let's just blame Farley or the MAP plant manager.....

 

[Funkdoobiest]

There are no such instructions. 7 quarts ends up at halfway up the twist on the wrong stick because it is the wrong stick. Ford has not yet acknowledged this...but based on most of us who have or who have had the wrong stick and who have measured our oil/changed our oil, the consensus is that halfway up the twist is where we end up. If you have a Raptor, this weekend mt apply because you have a different engine...and hopefully Ford got that stick right.

So you find that something you read on the internet is more accurate than something Ford published?

I don't have that kind of confidence in any dealer to not verify the oil level. Trust but verify. I just had my F150 oil changed at a large Ford dealer and they overfilled it by a quart. They even noted it on the work order 7 quarts when it should have been 6.

 

[broncorik]

So you find that something you read on the internet is more accurate than something Ford published?

I don't have that kind of confidence in any dealer to not verify the oil level. Trust but verify. I just had my F150 oil changed at a large Ford dealer and they overfilled it by a quart. They even noted it on the work order 7 quarts when it should have been 6.

Ford published that my 2021 Bronco 2.7 takes 7 quarts (in my owner's manual)...but the stick they provided with that same Bronco measured those 7 quarts halfway up the twist...that is what started me down this rabbit hole.

 

[cowman]

FSE just got back and said 6 qt. A SSM is supposed to be coming out soon.

Ok if this is correct... why does Ford put in 7.5 qt. at the factory... so in my thinking putting 7 qt. ain't going to hurt.... looks like Ford wants to save money on a recall on dip sticks and saving on oil if they only put in 6qt at the factory.... just a thought....

 

[broncorik]

FSE just got back and said 6 qt. A SSM is supposed to be coming out soon.

So does this mean that all of us with 2021s and early 2022s were overfilled by a quart at the factory? I drained 7 quarts out...so did many others.

 

[flip]

Ok if this is correct... why does Ford put in 7.5 qt. at the factory... so in my thinking putting 7 qt. ain't going to hurt.... looks like Ford wants to save money on a recall on dip sticks and saving on oil if they only put in 6qt at the factory.... just a thought....

Damn good question. 7.5 dry makes sense if service is 7 since some will be trapped in passages and other places it won't easily or quickly drain from. 7.5 to 6 does not make sense to me unless they have a build date break because an oil pan was changed mid stream.

 

[Funkdoobiest]

Ford published that my 2021 Bronco 2.7 takes 7 quarts (in my owner's manual)...but the stick they provided with that same Bronco measured those 7 quarts halfway up the twist...that is what started me down this rabbit hole.

Yep. And now they say 6, which might fix the problem. You should get a notice in say.... haha who am I kidding.

 

[flip]

So does this mean that all of us with 2021s and early 2022s were overfilled by a quart at the factory? I drained 7 quarts out...so did many others.

No idea what it's going to say. The new stick number in the catalogue (FT4Z-6750-C) only shows 1 in the depot, the MB3Z-6750-F is now indexing to the 3.0 Raptor engine. No idea if they are going to say the stick is wrong, info in one of the publications is incorrect or what but my guy did say 6. Don't know who he spoke with as they keep their internal contacts pretty hush.

 

[Funkdoobiest]

So does this mean that all of us with 2021s and early 2022s were overfilled by a quart at the factory? I drained 7 quarts out...so did many others.

That's what I asked but Fords response didn't give much in the way of details. We'll have to wait for the SSM. Anyone know what an SSM is?

What is Ford SSM?

SSM: Special Service Messages, generally an acknowledgement that an issue exists and Ford Technical is looking into a possible fix.Feb 16, 2014

 

[Funkdoobiest]

No idea what it's going to say. The new stick number in the catalogue (FT4Z-6750-C) only shows 1 in the depot, the MB3Z-6750-F is now indexing to the 3.0 Raptor engine. No idea if they are going to say the stick is wrong, info in one of the publications is incorrect or what but my guy did say 6. Don't know who he spoke with as they keep their internal contacts pretty hush.

F stick is now for Raptor? It just keeps getting better and better.

 

[flip]

F stick is now for Raptor? It just keeps getting better and better.

RB goes to the -C

 

[Funkdoobiest]

RB goes to the -C

Is the FT4Z C stick new? I thought it was
ft4z b ->mb3z B ->mb3z F

 

[flip]

That's what I asked but Fords response didn't give much in the way of details. We'll have to wait for the SSM. Anyone know what an SSM is?

What is Ford SSM?

SSM: Special Service Messages, generally an acknowledgement that an issue exists and Ford Technical is looking into a possible fix.Feb 16, 2014

Special Service Message. Not a recall, not a TSB, you won't see it published anywhere unless me or another dealer posts it here and you won't get a letter in the mail. It's mainly service information for technicians or a precursor to a TSB/notification Ford is aware of an issue and working on a fix.

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