Awesome thank you.27" x 14.75"
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Awesome thank you.27" x 14.75"
Yeah, it is disappointing, given that this is what you (as the driver/passenger) will be seeing 95% of your time of Bronco ownership. Geez, spray the interior with bedliner or something at least.I'm actually ok with it, even though I'd like a more smooth and uniform look. I wonder what Ford's original idea was for the interior finish, and why they didn't go with some gelcoat or paint coating for the interior? That could have provided a more finished interior look. Similar to how the outside surface has a more finished surface/coating.
Ford said last year during the Reveal timeframe they were expecting to sell 200,000 Bronco's and Bronco Sport's combined per year, not 40K.I read on Webasto’s web site that the process for the top is for small to medium volume production. Maybe Ford was expecting 40k units per year not 190k https://www.webasto-group.com/en/technologies-trends/lightweight/polyurethane-composites/
Don't try to pass off on Deming poor product quality, you must not understand his goals, such as:Quality can be defined as "fitness for use" (Deming). So I think the hard top has been designed for providing lightweight, removable, and durable panels that are damage-resistant both on the vehicle and when stored. The design priorities are focused on durability and function (sealing out the weather). The top is not designed to be pretty and remain pretty. If you want pretty, pull a $150K out of your wallet for a Mercedes G-wagon.
The latches are big and obtrusive for ease of use to lock and unlock the panels. The sound deadening material is thin and damage resistant. The top material is a tough and durable thermosetting plastic. Getting all of that to look like a Lexus interior is on a cost level the target Bronco customer is not willing to pay.
Utilitarian does not equal poor production practices.I wonder how many Bronco owners can spell "utilitarian".
I'm not passing off anything. I'm staying the Bronco roof design is geared towards durability and function, not aesthetics.Don't try to pass off on Deming poor product quality, you must not understand his goals, such as:
Better design of products to improve serviceHigher level of uniform product quality
How about we just agree to have a hardtop as good as Jeep, that would be defined as "fitness for use".
Sorry but there is nothing we have seen with the MIC top to think it will have long term durability.I'm not passing off anything. I'm staying the Bronco roof design is geared towards durability and function, not aesthetics.
Okay, but that's a production issue, rather than a design flaw. Production issues will get resolved. My reference to Deming (if that's still the topic) was about the purpose of the design, not the execution of it. Fitness for use has to do with the purpose of the design.Sorry but there is nothing we have seen with the MIC top to think it will have long term durability.
I inspected a “BAD ROOF” 2 door
Peace, last thought, I have spent years in Engineering development and production transition. In our real world, not therorictcal lessons of Deming, there are multiple factors we consider in the designs, including, purpose, fitness for use and execution of the design.Okay, but that's a production issue, rather than a design flaw. Production issues will get resolved. My reference to Deming (if that's still the topic) was about the purpose of the design, not the execution of it. Fitness for use has to do with the purpose of the design.
@ PREMiERdrum-Hope you can shed some light on this question. My OBX was delivered to dealer today 7/13, delivery is tomorrow. It had a 625 blend and was built 629 during that crazy rainstorm when MAP was shutdown.Lots of people asking about their builds being "stuck" in the "in production" phase on the tracker.
The tracker just isn't be updated to reflect shipping status until long after the fact. In the vast majority of cases, your builds have been released to shipment and are on the way.
Your dealer will have a "pre arrival notice" that isn't connected to the public-facing tracker system in any way, so they can give you a better answer.
Very few end users agree with that definition of quality and of course a manufacturers goal is to determine the wants of their customers and meet those expectations. This does not meet quality standards, which is clearly why Ford is giving away the $495 sound deadening headliner.What happens if you get a good top from the get go? No off-road use? No Christmas tree fetching?
Quality can be defined as "fitness for use" (Deming). So I think the hard top has been designed for providing lightweight, removable, and durable panels that are damage-resistant both on the vehicle and when stored. The design priorities are focused on durability and function (sealing out the weather). The top is not designed to be pretty and remain pretty. If you want pretty, pull a $150K out of your wallet for a Mercedes G-wagon.
The latches are big and obtrusive for ease of use to lock and unlock the panels. The sound deadening material is thin and damage resistant. The top material is a tough and durable thermosetting plastic. Getting all of that to look like a Lexus interior is on a cost level the target Bronco customer is not willing to pay.
Well, what are the "quality standards"?Very few end users agree with that definition of quality and of course a manufacturers goal is to determine the wants of their customers and meet those expectations. This does not meet quality standards, which is clearly why Ford is giving away the $495 sound deadening headliner.
I'm sure it's fine. Everything is fine. Just please STAY PUMPED!@ PREMiERdrum-Hope you can shed some light on this question. My OBX was delivered to dealer today 7/13, delivery is tomorrow. It had a 625 blend and was built 629 during that crazy rainstorm when MAP was shutdown.
The driver side rear window has the word "WATER" in white marker written on it from MAP.
Is this just a coincidence or something to look into?
I'm sure it's fine. Everything is fine. Just please STAY PUMPED!