You do have to go into N for to access 4L though. Doesn't say it in the manual because it pops up on the dash and wont try to shift the t-case unless you're in neutral.
I've only engaged and unengaged three times so far. I have to jiggle with it for couple mins to get into 4lo. Once it's there it stays there like a persistent house squatter. Manual says shift while moving 2mph, but being in one place, switching in and out of neutral, wiggling, all 3 times it took me 5 minutes to get it out of 4lo, everytime just before giving up all hope of getting it out of 4loYou just pull it backwards...and a lever never fails due to electronic issues
Noticed that right away too. Why is the ABS light lit? Would think that may be the reason for the 4wd mode not activating to prevent further issues..?I see the ABS light is on when he has trouble. My son's Tacoma had an ABS wheel sensor (actually the wiring) go out and it would not shift into 4x4. This is sad. Ground clearance issues also
I think the SOF system uses ABS sensors to determine if you're spinning a wheel. If so it will not allow a 4wd shift and subsequent grinding. In my son's Tacoma, since it will only shift to 4wd when moving slightly, the bad ABS senor said one wheel was stationary and would not shift.
A shift to 4L or a GOAT mode that uses 4L requires the transmission to be in neutral to allow things to align properly.
I was wondering this myself. Why does it have to be neutral and not park? Can it be either or?
Clearly there is something wrong, but when many of his error messages about 'drive mode unavailable' came up, I believe the car was in "Park." Thus - I could see those specific error codes to actually be "working as designed" if he truly was trying trying to select a GOAT mode while in P.
Upgraded suspension/Bigger tires/A little lift/Sasquatch. Otherwise it just sits too low.This is sad. Ground clearance issues also
Maybe, but I think the Owners Manual states it will alert you by saying something like 'Shift to Neutral for 4x4 shift" (to low range only)
While I greatly appreciate all the input and opinions, alas, a REAL world comparison .... I wish people would stop comparing things to Jeeps and start looking on how Toyota has set the bar in dependability and QC .... after all Ford copied the "turn assist" from Toyota and has renamed many off road features to GOAT mode, but its basically the same functions.But here's the thing. Toyota has had Multi-Terrain Select on the Taco and 4Runner for a while now. It functions much the same as Ford's GOAT modes, but has a more boring name.
On Toyotas, MTS works on top of whatever you're doing with the transfer case and rear locker. Sometimes it won't engage because you're going too fast, or haven't selected 4WD, or whatever. But it never interferes with vehicle operation.
I'm pretty concerned about electronics that will brick my forward progress until I restart the vehicle. It doesn't have to be that way. It shouldn't be that way. Hopefully this is a one-off, and not a sign of shoddy programing.
The only difference between your Base and his Bronco is that you didn't choose the rear locker, anything else in power train is almost the same.
wait what? why do you talk in first person? Bill, are you the man in the video? If so, thanks for this write up it definitely helps clear many questions!So hopefully I can answer some questions about the video that seem to keep popping up
1. Why try and drive up hill in 2WD to start? Because it was for a Youtube video, where any offroad trails look way less significant than they are in person and it does not take long before the " My moms fiat could do that trail in reverse" comments. So wanted to show that no you can not drive over it it 2WD.
2. Sequence of events. After slipping first time in 2WD , put in Neutral and turned on Mud Rut mode, which I stayed in until next hill where I slipped a bit, reversed, repositioned and slipped again, that second slippage caused all the errors, and shifted back in normal mode. Was unable to change gear or made regardless of being in gear, in park, or in neutral.
Put in Neutral and was unable to select any mode, but was able to select 4Low and lock the diff with the dedicated buttons, but not change mode.
After getting to flat land was still unable to change modes, still had ABS lights and warnings, was not able to select 2WD (yes after unlocking the locker ). Turned off ignition, turned back on, was finally able to select 2WD but still had all warnings.
Drove about a mile in 2WD and lights and warnings all went away. Was then able to freely change modes once again like nothing ever happened.
3. He's an idiot. This may be true, and I may not be the expert some of you here are but, being in 4 wheel drive in Mud/Rut mode and having it kick me out at the first sign of some tire slippage and putting me back to normal mode is not something of my own doing.
