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Wide jaw wrench of some sort.
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You should actually get two. Most people are removing these incorrectly, and not stabilizing the rack while they remove them.

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Never really thought about it until I saw that picture, but a crowfoot is a good idea. Doesn't take up much room in the tool bag and I already carry a ratchet. Much lighter than a giant combination and/or adjustable wrench.
 

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You should actually get two. Most people are removing these incorrectly, and not stabilizing the rack while they remove them.

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Anyone know what wrench sizes are needed?
 
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Icon made mention that FORD has great range of motion of their suspension components on their off road vehicles from stock and so with their philosophy of better performance they created the new ICON Delta Joint PRO specifically for the above reasons. The regular Delta joint was not able to exceed the OEM specs and so the Pro had to be created.
So the Delta Joint Pro is the way to go now? Ford wants to change my rashed UCA and at $1200 I'd rather get aftermarket - if they're better. What do you think @BigMeatsBronco ?
 

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So the Delta Joint Pro is the way to go now? Ford wants to change my rashed UCA and at $1200 I'd rather get aftermarket - if they're better. What do you think @BigMeatsBronco ?
we are installing rpg billet adjustable Ucas on our bronco in preparation for our first trail event, we will taking notes on the misalignment angles and noting how close they are to their limit points at full compression/droop.

Those who run a top hat spacer will see these limits just a lil bit sooner due to the extended length of the shock. That's when the icon delta joint pro becomes an attractive option. Its the only offering advertising more than oem misalignment angel. The only con I see is you need to remember to maintain them by adding grease at the proper intervals. The unibals and heim joints in the rpg/svc/camburg etc require no maintenance but need to be replaced more frequently than a sealed ball joint.

while were on the subject its important to note the adjustable offer a hidden feature, permanent alignment! all you need to do is lock out the lca slot...
 
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we are installing rpg billet adjustable Lucas on our bronco in preparation for our first trail event, we will taking notes the misalignment angles and noting how close they are to their limit points at full compression/droop.

Those who run a top hat spacer will see these limits just a lil bit sooner due to the extended length of the shock. That's when the icon delta joint pro becomes an attractive option. Its the only offering advertising more than oem misalignment angel. The only con I see is you need to remember to maintain them by adding grease at the proper intervals. The unibals and heim joints in the rpg/svc/camburg etc require no maintenance but need to be replaced more frequently than a sealed ball joint.

while were on the subject its important to note the adjustable offer a hidden feature, permanent alignment! all you need to do is lock out the lca slot...
One thing different in my use case is I have no intentions of ever doing a lift. A level at most. I'm not liking the uniball idea because this is a daily driver first and weekend toy second.

The Ford techs want to replace this, and while I disagree that it really needs it, if I'm going to shell out the money I'd rather have something better. So I'm thinking either Icon Delta Pro or Zone with OEM ball joints.

This is kind of veering off the topic of tie rods but since it came up a couple pages ago...

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So the Delta Joint Pro is the way to go now? Ford wants to change my rashed UCA and at $1200 I'd rather get aftermarket - if they're better. What do you think @BigMeatsBronco ?
I think the ICONS are the best thing on the market at this time. Their Delta joint pro looks and sounds fantastic. I plan on ordering a set of the billet ones very soon as well.
 
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I think the ICONS are the best thing on the market at this time. Their Delta joint pro looks and sounds fantastic. I plan on ordering a set of the billet ones very soon as well.
I think I'll go ahead and get the tubular Icons. The billet is overkill for my needs.
 

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Anyone know what wrench sizes are needed?
I know the one is a 32mm, I dont know the other off the top of my head. The next time we replace one iā€˜ll write it down.
 

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Mental Health Pro Tip: Stay off the General Discussion and Ordering Boards. Those places are like going to a bar where everyone is miserable. By the time I get mine, all this stuff will be figured out.

I think that JKS Sleeves and the BB steering box plastic (donā€™t scream at me if itā€™s Nylon or some composite) bushing would be pretty good insurance for moderate use scenarios.
 

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Iā€™ll probably end up buying it but I have a hard time swallowing $350 for a couple urethane bushings, a snap ring and a hose clamp. I wish someone would come out with a different solution.


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Mental Health Pro Tip: Stay off the General Discussion and Ordering Boards. Those places are like going to a bar where everyone is miserable. By the time I get mine, all this stuff will be figured out.

I think that JKS Sleeves and the BB steering box plastic (donā€™t scream at me if itā€™s Nylon or some composite) bushing would be pretty good insurance for moderate use scenarios.
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Iā€™ll probably end up buying it but I have a hard time swallowing $350 for a couple urethane bushings, a snap ring and a hose clamp. I wish someone would come out with a different solution.


[ QUOTE="NVCowboy, post: 1414035, member: 8918"]
Mental Health Pro Tip: Stay off the General Discussion and Ordering Boards. Those places are like going to a bar where everyone is miserable. By the time I get mine, all this stuff will be figured out.

I think that JKS Sleeves and the BB steering box plastic (donā€™t scream at me if itā€™s Nylon or some composite) bushing would be pretty good insurance for moderate use scenarios.
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Tyler himself says you shouldn't need the bushing unless you're lifted. There's already a much cheaper tie rod splint on the market so I assume the same will happen with the bushing.
 

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Iā€™ll probably end up buying it but I have a hard time swallowing $350 for a couple urethane bushings, a snap ring and a hose clamp. I wish someone would come out with a different solution.
If it makes you feel any better it is only a single bushing (and an install tool) šŸ˜œ

On a serious note, I am in agreement that the JKS sleeves and rack bushing (if lifted 2ā€+) is a solid solution. Keep a spare inner tie rod and go have fun.

$450ā€™ish for peace of mind
 

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So the Delta Joint Pro is the way to go now? Ford wants to change my rashed UCA and at $1200 I'd rather get aftermarket - if they're better. What do you think @BigMeatsBronco ?
I know you didnā€™t ask for me, but itā€™s well documented the aftermarket UCAs donā€™t offer better usable angle than the stock UCA. Infact, some of them are worse LOL. I talked to one of the techs at Icon that told me even their UCAs donā€™t offer more usable angle over stock. So really youā€™re just paying for a stronger balljoint, looks, different frame pivots (and donā€™t forget polyurethane and heims have their downsides), and possibly a better alignment for lifted vehicles.

I got some Camburg UCAs because I wanted a higher caster to move the wheel forward, clearing my mudflaps at ride height. No other reason. In fact, since switching, Iā€™ve noticed much more small vibrations from the road (likely a symptom of going from rubber to polyurethane bushings). Now I also need to worry about greasing them every oil change and replacing the uniball every few years.

Donā€™t get suckered into thinking upgraded parts are better all around. *Everything* in car upgrades is a trade off
 
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Does anyone know what the size of the stock Inner Tie Rod Nut is? I don't have my Bronco yet, so I can't measure it. I'm going to get a Crow's Foot for it. Thanks
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