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Ford Braptor black lug nuts - better / worse than other options?

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Aluminum lug nuts?? Really. Better than OEM and McGard?

I'm sure they work, but not for me, especially on a six lug 7000 lb off roader.

To each their own, I suppose but the "way better" is subjective at best.
Hey Swamp2,
Definitely subjective, as are most things in life. And that is the beauty of life, we all make our own decisions and we choose accordingly.
I understand your take on lug nuts, but know that I did speak with Mishimoto before purchasing them, and they stand strongly behind their product and it's appropriate durability for the Bronco.
Based on that, I purchased them, and I must admit they do look better and they are certainly lighter. But as you pointed out, that is definitely subjective.
 

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12m is wrong for braptor !
You are correct the M14 is required for the Raptor, while the M12's are for the regular Broncos. Thanks to PaulNY for informing me of this. Mishimoto does make lug nuts in the M14 x 1.25 size.
 

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Hey Swamp2,
Definitely subjective, as are most things in life. And that is the beauty of life, we all make our own decisions and we choose accordingly.
I understand your take on lug nuts, but know that I did speak with Mishimoto before purchasing them, and they stand strongly behind their product and it's appropriate durability for the Bronco.
Based on that, I purchased them, and I must admit they do look better and they are certainly lighter. But as you pointed out, that is definitely subjective.
I was being polite. Definitely not subjective...

McGard material strength is 135-160 kpsi (proof). Thus exceeding OEM standards (which obviously exist 😉). Mishi is 63-69 kpsi (yield). Proof is also less than yield. Thus safety factor for McGard is 214%-231% of Mishi.

Probably a reason they don't make M14 (i.e. truck sizes).

Hope this objective information is useful to you.
 

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Odd laughing response @the poacher .... I was truly trying to help and provided hard, quantitative information.
 

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Odd laughing response @the poacher .... I was truly trying to help and provided hard, quantitative information.
Hey Swamp2,
No disrespect intended. I meant to push the "like" button and did not realize that I mistakenly pushed the "laughing". I have subsequently corrected it.
I much appreciate your information and for the time it took to dig up the facts. I find this forum a tremendous source of information and have utilized it many times to assist in fixing an issue on my Bronco.
 

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And thank you @the poacher for the kind explanation!
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