Ford EcoBoost V6 Class Action Lawsuit Filed Over Faulty Valves

[BroncoDymond88]

LOL Welcome to owning ANY vehicle.

My engine could blow up at any second. Am I entitled to compensation for the unknown also?!

You're demonstrating an embarassing misunderstanding of probability. When there is a known issue with an unknown number of engines built during a certain period and you own one built within that period vs any other new vehicle that doesn't have that issue, there is an increased probability that you would be affected therefore decreasing perceived reliability of the vehicle.

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[BroncocnorB]

You're demonstrating an embarassing misunderstanding of probability. When there is a known issue with an unknown number of engines built during a certain period and you own one built within that period vs any other new vehicle that doesn't have that issue, there is an increased probability that you would be affected therefore decreasing perceived reliability of the vehicle.

I don’t think this is solely about vehicles built during that period. It’s about plaintiffs looking for a hand-out, in all “probability”. That’s what’s embarrassing. But spare the ad hominem attacks

 

[Phil]

Only people who win out of this lawsuit is the lawyers. LMBO

 

[Ducati1098]

You're demonstrating an embarassing misunderstanding of probability. When there is a known issue with an unknown number of engines built during a certain period and you own one built within that period vs any other new vehicle that doesn't have that issue, there is an increased probability that you would be affected therefore decreasing perceived reliability of the vehicle.

The only thing embarrassing is someone actually believing people are entitled to compensation simply just because the possibility something may happen is slightly higher. That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.

The fact that you think your reliability is any worse, doesn’t mean you should get compensation until it’s proven to be.
Probability doesn’t make a difference if it never happens.

 

[Calm horse]

Now I wonder if we can sue for the cheap plastic interior, or perhaps I can get some cash because mine didn't have the the temperature displayed on the knobs. Ford knew how much we wanted those. How about the folks whose air does not work under the seats...or Mayne we all sue for how rediculous the dashboard looks...

 

[RIDE]

The only thing embarrassing is someone actually believing people are entitled to compensation simply just because the possibility something may happen is slightly higher. That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.

The fact that you think your reliability is any worse, doesn’t mean you should get compensation until it’s proven to be.
Probability doesn’t make a difference if it never happens.

This. And the fact that Fords owned up to the issue and has extended warranty on these particular VIN’s in the event there’s an issue. I mean, I guess they can be pissed if it fails at 101,k mi. But at that point, even non affected engines will likely see some failures also. Not sure how you can be mad about that.

 

[BroncoDymond88]

This. And the fact that Fords owned up to the issue and has extended warranty on these particular VIN’s in the event there’s an issue. I mean, I guess they can be pissed if it fails at 101,k mi. But at that point, even non affected engines will likely see some failures also. Not sure how you can be mad about that.

Yeah, it's a good point, I agree. I'm still unhappy that there is really no incentive for them to improve quality but I guess that's a larger issue. I certainly felt unhappy about the fact that my Bronco was in potentially affected batch built in April of '21, I kept it in my mind the entire time I owned it, and that informed my decision to not go off the grid with it.

BUT I guess the prevailing wisdom is that that's on us as consumers to accept whatever quality issues we're subjected to, and it's unreasonable to expect that Ford should be hurt enough by these quality issues that they're incentivized to change.

 

[RIDE]

Yeah, it's a good point, I agree. I'm still unhappy that there is really no incentive for them to improve quality but I guess that's a larger issue. I certainly felt unhappy about the fact that my Bronco was in potentially affected batch built in April of '21, I kept it in my mind the entire time I owned it, and that informed my decision to not go off the grid with it.

BUT I guess the prevailing wisdom is that that's on us as consumers to accept whatever quality issues we're subjected to, and it's unreasonable to expect that Ford should be hurt enough by these quality issues that they're incentivized to change.

Let’s not kid ourselves, the expense of a worldwide recall, damage to reliability of their brand, and decreased consumer confidence had to cost Ford enough to want to completely avoid any chance of this in the future.

I see your point and agree it’d suck if trust issues limit decisions on how/where you use your vehicle. But there’s also a risk of some part failure in all models in all brands, so I’m in the camp of not living in fear about what ifs. Get your stress test done and if it passes, live your life. Me personally I’d take it as “challenge extended” to try and get it to fail at that point. You’ve got a golden parachute to get a free new engine before the car hits 100,k and will enjoy every mile up till then, and after with a new engine.

 

[Fmuguira]

Phil, right on !!

attorneys who filed this class action must be having real cash flow problems and grasping at straws.

Unfortunately these type of frivolous lawsuits just add more cost/personnel expense to the business to operate and guess who absorbs that ….?? Us, the consumer.

 

[DefNotBuddyLee]

I certainly felt unhappy about the fact that my Bronco was in potentially affected batch built in April of '21, I kept it in my mind the entire time I owned it, and that informed my decision to not go off the grid with it.

Reminds me of THIS post regarding repeated issues @TheKim was experiencing in that if I no longer had confidence in my vehicle to use it the way I wanted, I would cut bait. I traded in my last Mustang because I had a shimmy in it, and as I was driving it home to check it out my driver side rear tire fell off and rolled by me. After looking and thinking, I am pretty sure someone was in the process of stealing my RTR wheels, got caught or spooked and ran leaving the lug nuts loose. I replaced the rear axle and all affected parts myself, but anytime I hit a bump or drove on a rough road, my brain went back to that shimmy and I would pull over and check everything out. I could never trust taking it to track days or driving it the way it had been built to drive, so it went away.

To the point at hand, I think the issue myself and probably some others are having difficulty with is the "would not have purchased or paid as much money if they had known about potential issues". If the idea is that Ford knew, and shipped them out anyway, well you may have something. If Ford did not know at the time of manufacture and delivery...well you lose me. If Ford works to remedy which includes testing for failure and offering additional powertrain warranty, then really that is all they can do and in my opinion is acting in good faith. There are always potential unknowns. If you buy a first year run of a vehicle, you should automatically expect that some things will not be ironed out and thus may have "potential issues" outside of what may be expected with a vehicle that has been produced for multiple years with more real life data for engineers to work with.

The contrast in my opinion would be Jeep/Chrysler during the Pentastar fiasco. What got a lot of people in the Jeep community flustered about the defects was that allegedly Jeep/Chrysler had enough reports and data about issues and hid them and did not take action to fix. Worse, they are believed to have knowingly directed dealers to fix vehicles returning for warranty work with replacement parts also known to be defective. There is a big contrast in how that was handled compared to the faulty valves issue on the Bronco. I know alot of Jeepers that quit the brand because of it.

 

[Vandy]

Dang it, I got the ever reliable inline 4- turbo. Still purring like kitten...

 

[RedDawg]

You're demonstrating an embarassing misunderstanding of probability. When there is a known issue with an unknown number of engines built during a certain period and you own one built within that period vs any other new vehicle that doesn't have that issue, there is an increased probability that you would be affected therefore decreasing perceived reliability of the vehicle.

And you seem to be demonstrating an embarrassing misunderstanding of sarcasm….

 

[Herewegoagain]

So this lawsuit is by people who have engines that have zero problems ?

WTF ?

The resale value for the vehicles with possible faulty valves could much less

 

[mpeugeot]

Only people who win out of this lawsuit is the lawyers. LMBO

Exactly, these lawsuits do nothing for the consumer... It's all about a lawfirm/lawyer getting a payday.

I have a hotzone motor and I purchased the extended warranty. I don't expect them to refund the money for the expense.

 

[mpeugeot]

The only thing embarrassing is someone actually believing people are entitled to compensation simply just because the possibility something may happen is slightly higher. That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.

The fact that you think your reliability is any worse, doesn’t mean you should get compensation until it’s proven to be.
Probability doesn’t make a difference if it never happens.

I think that they should be entitled to an extension of the warranty for this specific problem. The motor issue (and I have a in-zone motor) is the only reason that I purchased the extended warranty from Ford.

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