This was door storage patent I was referring to earlier.
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/7d/7e/6b/2b260b55bc5a0a/US10150420.pdf
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/7d/7e/6b/2b260b55bc5a0a/US10150420.pdf
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The way I read it they said the first two panels on the 4 door can be removed, meaning second row seat.Thanks. So sounds like panel above rear seat on 4 dr CANT be removed with the roof rack in place.
guess not that big of a deal since if you need a roof rack and plan on having say a thule, you wouldn’t want to remove the mid panel anyway
Mike Levine has not responded to that on Twitter eitherI wish they would answer the question about white top option.
I’ve seen it asked several times but haven’t seen a response.
The first two panels are the ones over the front seats. Looking at pictures with the rack, not being able to remove the panel over the back seats makes sense.The way I read it they said the first two panels on the 4 door can be removed, meaning second row seat.
This is correct. Passive are basically open holes. Here is the picture from Ford's web site of the active plugs that you have to actively open.I think “active” is a plug you can open and plug - aka the Jeep’s front row floor plugs. Passive are probably just weep holes in the low points of the body and marketing is “hyping” them to be “drain plugs”.
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It’s true. More emotions fade the more I’ll come to my senses. Will happily switch to a CPO LR Disco that is 70k new for less than 55k, than getting jerked around on a 30k Ford that’s optioned up to 55k
I have the same concern of being optioned up to 55000. That will push me to another vehicleIt’s true. More emotions fade the more I’ll come to my senses. Will happily switch to a CPO LR Disco that is 70k new for less than 55k, than getting jerked around on a 30k Ford that’s optioned up to 55k
Certified Pre OwnedI have the same concern of being optioned up to 55000. That will push me to another vehicle
What does CPO mean?
Certified Pre Owned (used car). Definition may vary by car make but in general dealer will inspect the used vehicle to certain specs and include an extended warranty. And if someone is going to buy a used Land Rover, you definitely want an extended warraty...repairs aren't cheap. They usually are more expensive than non-CPO used cars because of the warranty.I have the same concern of being optioned up to 55000. That will push me to another vehicle
What does CPO mean?
It’s true. More emotions fade the more I’ll come to my senses. Will happily switch to a CPO LR Disco that is 70k new for less than 55k, than getting jerked around on a 30k Ford that’s optioned up to 55k
Maybe true, but don't jerk your Bronco Enthusiasts around so much, they can be influencers for the Bronco that will bring additional sales, if they don't feel they are being played.I think this shows how much this is all a work in progress as they are still designing and finalizing some things and possibly soliciting feedback.....don't want to commit a firm answer on certain topics and be called out later on when things change
Good guess on the Warthog. Put that shorty pickup was F150 based, not Ranger, so I might guess it was a true FSB mock up for years in the future.Yeah, I was wondering if that Orange one on a different rear diff setup and two inch lift / 37’s is a bit of a in the open reveal of Warthogs to come. (That and the shorty pickup thing we had testing video of.)
I wish I knew, would like 33's with a 4.46:1 gear ratio. If they offered that in the outer banks I could go up from 32's to 33's without much of a issue. Though I'm afraid the 4.27:1 on the outer banks would be to high for 33'sI wish 33” was an option across the board. Is that option not as simple as it sounds?
There are a lot of Wrangler owners on 35s with 4.10s or even 3.21s and a comparatively anemic 3.8 or 3.6L. You’ll be just fine ...I wish I knew, would like 33's with a 4.46:1 gear ratio. If they offered that in the outer banks I could go up from 32's to 33's without much of a issue. Though I'm afraid the 4.27:1 on the outer banks would be to high for 33's
Here’s the problem: if it’s too expensive, the take rate will be low and Ford will end up selling something that no one is buying. Obviously, it’s all speculative at this point. “Just sayin’.”I am guessing that is the Badlands price. All the other models will get lockers, upgraded front axle, Bilsteins, IFS arms, etc. before even getting to wheels and tires.
If we take the difference between Badlands and Black Diamond as a proxy, we’re taking something like $6000, and that doesn’t including adding auto.
I did forget to take out the disconnect in that calculation too, but yeah.Here’s the problem: if it’s too expensive, the take rate will be low and Ford will end up selling something that no one is buying. Obviously, it’s all speculative at this point. “Just sayin’.”