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@Zach@Granger - Please validate that allocation numbers are now confidential from FoMoCo with penalties for disclosure.


It's frustrating waiting on the new Bronco, but we had reservations in 2021 to wait in line.
MY22 saw the removal of the true reservation system in favor of allocations based mostly on dealer sales.

That was frustrating enough... now customers waiting at smaller dealerships are forced to wait longer to Ford's allocation-based decision.

To compound this frustration - as I learned today - FoMoCo has embargoed ALL allocation information from dealers to the customers. We can no longer estimate our wait times (sans commodity constraints) based on dealership allocations. The FoMoCo punishment for disclosure is LOSS OF ALL ALLOCATIONs for offending dealerships.

This is really frustrating to me having hand-tied dealerships from communication with customers. Good dealerships that have had good, open communication for the entire process are now suddenly just like all the crappy asshat dealers we hate dealing with. It's FoMoCo that's promoting BAD customer relationships and it's FoMoCo that's getting in the way this time.

I have a daily driver that's 250k+ miles and not much longer to go before needing replacement. I shopped and selected my replacement already. I was keeping a close eye on my reservation and dealer allocation to have a clear understanding of expectations. Now, I'm totally blind and have no idea what/when to expect anything.

As a stock holder in F, I'm dismayed at this decision to cut customers out of the loop on a reserved product with estimations and delivery potential. FoMoCo IS driving the dealership culture and IS responsible for how the customer is being treated. The "dealership is independent" argument from FoMoCo is losing validation based on corporate control of the message.
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As a stock holder in F, I bet you're over the moon with the current share price, depending on where you bought in.....

Seriously, I feel you, we all do, none of are happy. Granted you're in a tough spot with a high mileage DD, that stinks. If I were in your shoes, I'd order a Jeep (doesn't look like lead time is that bad currently) and drive it until your Bronco comes in. Resale in always good on wranglers, and obviously that's especially the case now...
 

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My understanding was that the predictive power of the allocation numbers was already kneecapped by Ford deciding to dole them out one month at a time in 2022.

Keeping the numbers completely secret might actually be good news, if it's Ford's intention to juice sales to the dealers with long reservation lists without making the crybaby big dealers upset.

Of course from a reservation customer standpoint, the opacity of the entire system is absurd and a disaster of Ford's own making.
 
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As a stock holder in F, I bet you're over the moon with the current share price, depending on where you bought in.....

Seriously, I feel you, we all do, none of are happy. Granted you're in a tough spot with a high mileage DD, that stinks. If I were in your shoes, I'd order a Jeep (doesn't look like lead time is that bad currently) and drive it until your Bronco comes in. Resale in always good on wranglers, and obviously that's especially the case now...
I am happy with the stock price, not how the company is treating "lifestyle-like" customers; something Ford is struggling to recognize and adapt to.
 

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@Zach@Granger - Please validate that allocation numbers are now confidential from FoMoCo with penalties for disclosure.


It's frustrating waiting on the new Bronco, but we had reservations in 2021 to wait in line.
MY22 saw the removal of the true reservation system in favor of allocations based mostly on dealer sales.

That was frustrating enough... now customers waiting at smaller dealerships are forced to wait longer to Ford's allocation-based decision.

To compound this frustration - as I learned today - FoMoCo has embargoed ALL allocation information from dealers to the customers. We can no longer estimate our wait times (sans commodity constraints) based on dealership allocations. The FoMoCo punishment for disclosure is LOSS OF ALL ALLOCATIONs for offending dealerships.

This is really frustrating to me having hand-tied dealerships from communication with customers. Good dealerships that have had good, open communication for the entire process are now suddenly just like all the crappy asshat dealers we hate dealing with. It's FoMoCo that's promoting BAD customer relationships and it's FoMoCo that's getting in the way this time.

I have a daily driver that's 250k+ miles and not much longer to go before needing replacement. I shopped and selected my replacement already. I was keeping a close eye on my reservation and dealer allocation to have a clear understanding of expectations. Now, I'm totally blind and have no idea what/when to expect anything.

As a stock holder in F, I'm dismayed at this decision to cut customers out of the loop on a reserved product with estimations and delivery potential. FoMoCo IS driving the dealership culture and IS responsible for how the customer is being treated. The "dealership is independent" argument from FoMoCo is losing validation based on corporate control of the message.
Here’s a thought, be this forceful with Dealers charging big ADM to reservation holders and stealing their rigs
 

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Wait until you see what they did with the pricing on the Lightning. MSRP=Invoice and the dealer gets 10% in incentives for following the Ford list of do's and don'ts.
 

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@Zach@Granger - Please validate that allocation numbers are now confidential from FoMoCo with penalties for disclosure.


It's frustrating waiting on the new Bronco, but we had reservations in 2021 to wait in line.
MY22 saw the removal of the true reservation system in favor of allocations based mostly on dealer sales.

That was frustrating enough... now customers waiting at smaller dealerships are forced to wait longer to Ford's allocation-based decision.

To compound this frustration - as I learned today - FoMoCo has embargoed ALL allocation information from dealers to the customers. We can no longer estimate our wait times (sans commodity constraints) based on dealership allocations. The FoMoCo punishment for disclosure is LOSS OF ALL ALLOCATIONs for offending dealerships.

This is really frustrating to me having hand-tied dealerships from communication with customers. Good dealerships that have had good, open communication for the entire process are now suddenly just like all the crappy asshat dealers we hate dealing with. It's FoMoCo that's promoting BAD customer relationships and it's FoMoCo that's getting in the way this time.

I have a daily driver that's 250k+ miles and not much longer to go before needing replacement. I shopped and selected my replacement already. I was keeping a close eye on my reservation and dealer allocation to have a clear understanding of expectations. Now, I'm totally blind and have no idea what/when to expect anything.

As a stock holder in F, I'm dismayed at this decision to cut customers out of the loop on a reserved product with estimations and delivery potential. FoMoCo IS driving the dealership culture and IS responsible for how the customer is being treated. The "dealership is independent" argument from FoMoCo is losing validation based on corporate control of the message.
A dealer that will remain nameless, just today announced their March allocations (pretty darn publicly on this site) so I'm not sure if you received misinformation or maybe I am just misunderstanding?
 

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I have a very good relationship with my dealer and any time I ask, they just tell me their allocation.

BUT I can see why Ford does not want allocation numbers being discussed in a public forum.

I get it that this launch has not been good and prob the worst launch for Ford ever BUT everyone here complains and then they get their Bronco and they are happy as a pig in poo.

A dealer that will remain nameless, just today announced their March allocations (pretty darn publicly on this site) so I'm not sure if you received misinformation or maybe I am just misunderstanding?
 

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Frustrated Parents: "All these kids are falling behind and failing math and science tests, they aren't learning. They will never get basic skills for a job!"
School Board: "OK, we got an idea, no more tests and that way no one fails. Problem solved!"

Frustrated Citizens: "Crime and arrests are out of control, stores are shutting down because of all the felonies. It is even less safe to go outside!"
Local PD/Gov't: "OK, we got an idea, we won't respond to calls and most crime is now considered a misdemeanor so crime stats go down. Problem solved!"

Frustrated Bronco Reservation Holder: "Ford said they would build in order of reservations before dealer stock and now they are using an allocation system. I may never get my Bronco!"
@Ford Motor Company: "OK we got an idea, we'll simply stop giving information about allocations. Problem Solved!"
 
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@Zach@Granger - Please validate that allocation numbers are now confidential from FoMoCo with penalties for disclosure.


It's frustrating waiting on the new Bronco, but we had reservations in 2021 to wait in line.
MY22 saw the removal of the true reservation system in favor of allocations based mostly on dealer sales.

That was frustrating enough... now customers waiting at smaller dealerships are forced to wait longer to Ford's allocation-based decision.

To compound this frustration - as I learned today - FoMoCo has embargoed ALL allocation information from dealers to the customers. We can no longer estimate our wait times (sans commodity constraints) based on dealership allocations. The FoMoCo punishment for disclosure is LOSS OF ALL ALLOCATIONs for offending dealerships.

This is really frustrating to me having hand-tied dealerships from communication with customers. Good dealerships that have had good, open communication for the entire process are now suddenly just like all the crappy asshat dealers we hate dealing with. It's FoMoCo that's promoting BAD customer relationships and it's FoMoCo that's getting in the way this time.

I have a daily driver that's 250k+ miles and not much longer to go before needing replacement. I shopped and selected my replacement already. I was keeping a close eye on my reservation and dealer allocation to have a clear understanding of expectations. Now, I'm totally blind and have no idea what/when to expect anything.

As a stock holder in F, I'm dismayed at this decision to cut customers out of the loop on a reserved product with estimations and delivery potential. FoMoCo IS driving the dealership culture and IS responsible for how the customer is being treated. The "dealership is independent" argument from FoMoCo is losing validation based on corporate control of the message.
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They've always been confidential at my dealer..........:ROFLMAO:
 

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Frustrated Bronco Reservation Holder: "Ford said they would build in order of reservations before dealer stock and now they are using an allocation system. I may never get my Bronco!"
@Ford Motor Company: "OK we got an idea, we'll simply stop giving information about allocations. Problem Solved!"
Only difference is that Ford never gave us any information about allocations to begin with. If you only saw Ford's official communications you would have no idea that it was a major factor in when your Bronco would be scheduled. Early on they were emphasizing timestamp, and then their messaging switched to being about commodities.
 

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Do tell where you got this info. Asked my ZM if he has any idea what we might be expecting for this year since we haven't heard. He said more info would be available later this month. Not that this would surprise me but I would expect with the backlog of unproduced orders from last year, allocation is a moot point due to continued commodity issues.
 
 


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