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Oh he’s pissed now!! This is how Ford feels about their end users. 100% .
definitely moving on from ford.

@Zach@Granger im sorry that Ford feels like this about your business with them
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What a piece of excrement this Levine - go FU#% yourself & I'll be cheering on the waves of fellow Ford haters forever more!
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Query:

What happens to your 2021 allocation number?

Many dealerships were given a allocation number and then never got the Broncos to reach that number. So what happens to those numbers?

Are they being added to the 2022 allocation total? They should be since it is Ford's fault they didn't get the correct number of vehicles produced.

Or are the 2021 allocations just dropped and a new, lesser number (for some) is assigned?
 

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Oh he’s pissed now!! This is how Ford feels about their end users. 100% .
definitely moving on from ford.

@Zach@Granger im sorry that Ford feels like this about your business with them
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Oh, the irony. When people were being overcharged for their reserved Broncos, Levine's advice was to agree to a price before choosing a dealership. A lot of us tried that, and only a handful of dealerships would even discuss pricing. So those were the ones we went with.

Now those same dealerships are the ones being penalized.
 

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If there was an official Ford reservation and actual allocation numbers per dealer we could look up then we could make an informed decision to choose a different dealer but for all I know I may be reservation numero 1000 at small dealer X and become numero 2000 at big dealer Y if I switch. I doubt dealers would give an actual number where I would stand in line if I switched. More than likely get a ballpark “ohh we have over 1000 reservations in front of you” or if they think they could get you to pay ADM then suddenly you’re their best buddy with “yeah if we switch you it shouldn’t take too long”. 👎🏼👎🏼

FoMoCo needs to hear a mo-fo 🤬 quote or meme from Morgan Freeman or Samual L Jackson.
 
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This is what Ford is missing. No flowery talk and open ended promises. Heres the facts, heres the 3 year plan. We’ll help you by doing anyone of these things. This is what we’re doing about it. Textbook.

good job Zack.
 

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IF I can wait, & I will do my damnedest because I believe in Granger, & support their rare integrity & dedication to the customer. IT WILL BE the last & very last Ford product I & my family, friends & associates will ever, EVER buy. The corrosive, back stabbing nature of Ford's poisonous corporate greed is so heinous, SO disgusting..... it's beyond words.
Well said, thank you!
 

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I would find it hard to believe that the allocation formula worked against a dealer more than us. We certainly were the outlier in this scenario. Even with that being against us, if the builds are in chronological order exactly (which I don't think they can be), we would produce all our cars on our low production estimate to fulfill reservations through 1:45 p.m on 7/14. On the high side of our estimate we would fill orders through 7/16 at 1:37 p.m.

You should be well within that timeframe for your dealership I would imagine.
Inexplicable. Especially when you see all these late orders getting builds.

You are a failure @Ford Motor Company
 

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Arrogance like this is going to lead to many cancellations...if I can't get a 2022 Bronco at the dealer I've selected with a damn day 2 timestamp I'm done with Bronco and Ford, PERIOD. This ENTIRE release has been an absolute failure. These dumb shits are sitting on gold and have done everything in their power to screw it up.

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Levine's response doesn't make any sense.

He starts with dealerships are "independent" - meaning they are outside of Ford's control. This means a dealership is free to sell Broncos at $20,000 ADM because Ford proper has no control on what they do - and is what they have said.

Then he follows up with the control Ford is exercising on dealerships. So which is it? Dealerships do what they want OR Ford is exercising control over what a dealership does?

I can see his point if Bill Nissan wanted to get a Bronco from Ford to sell. But the dealerships he is talking about are FORD dealerships. ALL of them are selling all vehicles from the line-up. This feels like a straw-man argument:

"Certain dealerships want to only sell Broncos." No one said that. Every dealership - EVERY dealership is selling every vehicle in one way or another.

The part that shows the brass is so out of touch with reality is the "high demand" is because the brass fucked up. It is 100% artificial. If the Bronco was produced correctly, there would likely be little to no allocations for 2022.

So the customers are left to do extra leg-work because Ford proper cannot do their job effectively.
 

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Oh he’s pissed now!! This is how Ford feels about their end users. 100% .
definitely moving on from ford.

@Zach@Granger im sorry that Ford feels like this about your business with them
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I went and found that thread and added my two cents
 

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I’m 244 of 203 at Granger as a day three reservation. And I guess I’m gonna get a 2023. But I refuse to pay 10k over msrp for a toy. I’m sad I’m going to have to wait but what other choice do I have?
 

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My grandfather owned a gas station that my father worked in as a young boy. It was what you would picture as a typical small town full-service gas station in rural Iowa. He grew up around the gas station and that is where he learned his blue-collar work-ethic. It is also where he first started to sell used cars at the age of 16. Fast-forward to 1978 he purchased a Dodge store in Granger, Iowa and later in 1987 he purchased a Ford dealership in Dallas Center, Iowa. He then relocated the Ford store to Granger and become what is now Granger Motors & Granger Ford.

He had a saying when we would complain growing up. “If it was easy, everyone would do it.” The last week has been a great reminder of that. Our staff, starting with Albert and now continuing with a 5-member team, has worked very hard over the last 16 months. Yesterday’s allocation announcement was a gut-punch. I tend to be a glass is half-full guy, and this certainly has been a test of that.

We have the Bronco6G community and a lot of loyal customers to thank for all their support and my responsibility lies with them. We want them to be taken care of properly. There is no other way to sugar coat it, the allocation formula does the biggest disservice to our customers. Ford decided to dip their toes in the “reservation” system emulating a method made popular by Tesla’s recent success. In the end, they couldn’t dive all the way in and reverted more closely back to the franchise/allocation system that has been in place for over 100 years. I get it. You want to reward the dealerships that have sold hundreds and thousands of vehicles on an annual basis. The franchise system also benefits the consumer because of discounts and aggressive pricing. If this was Tesla, there would be no discounts. There would be no Granger Ford.

To recap 2021, we received allocation of 203 units. This was on roughly 600 reservations we received before the allocation cutoff. It was reasonable to assume that moving from 6 to 12 months of production would safely bump our allocation to around 400. It was also a reasonable assumption that including all reservations as a factor, instead of just the September cutoff (1300+ reservations), would double our allocation count again to around 800 units. Adjusted down slightly, we were anticipating 700-ish Broncos for 2022. That isn’t how it is going to work out. Moving the “bronco” factor down from 50% to 25% and moving the factor from reservations to 2021 allocations was the worst possible scenario for our customers. We are left with 1075 orders converted from reservations currently. I would anticipate being able to fill 10-20% of our reservation count for 2022. That amounts to 120-220 Units depending on how production plays out. We received 11 for 2022 Model Year production start up.

So where do we go from here? Like I said before, our obligation lies with you the customer. So, whether you end up purchasing your Bronco from me or not, I want you to have a great experience and I want you to get your Bronco. So, there are a few things we can do as a store to help increase that allocation number.

What is Granger Ford going to do?

1. Bronco Facility – There is a Bronco facility upgrade that dealerships can opt into. This can increase our 2022 Allocation by 18 total units. We are absolutely going to spend the money and sign up for this.

2. Bronco Sport Sales – 25% of the allocation formula is Bronco Sport sales. We are going to become better at selling Bronco Sports than Broncos. We are now offering 6% under invoice on a Bronco Sport order. We are going to get as creative as possible to shoot this sales number up ASAP. We are going to be relentless in this pursuit. In my mind, this is our biggest opportunity.

3. Share of Nation Sales – This is over a 36-month period, so it’s going to be the hardest number to move. But because of our loyal online following and progressive business model. We have quickly moved up 20+ spots in our region YTD and I anticipate being one of the biggest, if not the biggest, Ford dealer in the state of Iowa for 2022.

4. We are committed to only selling to our reservation holders - 100% of our Broncos delivered have been to our reservation holders. Ford lowered the dealer’s name match standard to 60% because other dealers seem to have trouble making that work. We have it down to a science and will continue to value long-term commitments rather than short term profit.
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5. Discount lock-in – We absolutely are going to honor our pricing agreements with our customers. $1000 under invoice or $2000 under invoice October special. This will not change.

6. Honest Conversations – Over the next 30+ days we are going to have open and honest conversations regarding your reservation and where you stand among our total reservation count. We will do our best to advise you of your best options and talk you through what makes the most sense for you. We are going to have your best interest in mind, regardless of whether you end up purchasing from us.

What can our reservation holders do?

1. Hang in there – No, we’re not going to send you a hammock. But I know there are a collection of our reservation holders that are loyal to us and how we do business. Their patience will be put to the test, but we are going to do our best to give monthly updates on our allocation and progress that we’re making on Bronco deliveries as well as our other goals to increase allocation.

2. Buy a Wrangler/Gladiator at 4% Under Invoice – if you are tired of the Bronco ride, we can offer you a Wrangler/Gladiator purchase at 4% under invoice and have it delivered to our store in 60-90 days. 2022 Wrangler and Gladiator ordering opened yesterday. Email [email protected] and we’ll be happy to send you a quote.

3. Find Another Bronco Dealer – I have confirmed that Ford will allow transferring of reservations/orders. We have heard of ADM horror stories, but there are other dealerships who are treating customers right. While they may not match our discounted pricing, you can make some calls/send some emails to other dealers and see where they stand. If you choose to transfer, you’ll need to call Ford’s customer service line at 1(800)392-3673 and request a transfer.

The next 12 months are going to be a grind and we’re committed to working harder than we have the past 16 months. We are starting to reap the rewards of our labor and by the end of the year, we will have the pleasure of delivering 150+ Broncos to our reservation holders. I don’t want your sympathy. We signed up for this. If anyone deserves your sympathy it is our reservations holders, who in my opinion, only deserve the best. We will keep grinding and we’re not going anywhere. Hey! If it was easy, everyone would do it.

Zach
The concern I have is with my timestamp I should have made the 2021 list if Ford had their shit together. But my build/Badlands sasquatch 2.7 MIC, I got delayed/passes over. I believe that won't change in 2022, ford said in the letter you might want to change to a soft top to get built sooner. Allocations should be timestamps and reservation numbers period. Guess we'll be talking soon. I should be well within your numbers but can ford build it, so changing dealers won't matter.
 

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Super bummer on this whole thing. I have a secondary order at Horsham in PA that I was planning on trading my soft top Bronco to, but I imagine I'll be in a similar situation with them. I was hoping it would be like 6 months, not 18+.
 
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Waiting for the know-it-all where’s your signed, notarized, hermetically sealed purchase agreement folks to chime in and say people are stupid for not knowing your Bronco order Is more dependent on the number of Fusions the dealer sold 2 years ago and Escapes this year than your reservation time stamp.
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