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And you've told me that all internet commerce is basically unsupportable by statute. I'll not state the obvious.Tell me you're not an attorney without telling me you are not an attorney.
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And you've told me that all internet commerce is basically unsupportable by statute. I'll not state the obvious.Tell me you're not an attorney without telling me you are not an attorney.
To be fair, that was at time of reservation (which most of us didn’t read since we were fighting the website just to place our res). Many things changed ie. allocations and were discussed before converting to order and/or switching dealers. I still find it odd that some are acting like allocations are new as of last week.Then you must not be paying attention, or didn't read the FAQ's when you reserved. That was the entire point of the reservation system. They clearly stated: "All reservations will be completed before production of stock units begins". That shoots the rest of your argument down...so there's that.
FAQ's at time of Reservation:
Well, I think the purpose of this thread is Granger is just covering their butt. I think their order volume pushed them outside of being delivered all in calendar year 2022. It could be even before the apparent MY '22 adjustment to the allocation schedule, Granger was going to have orders that will slip to calendar year 2023. Uncovering such an issue under the guise of a Ford change in allocation scheme for 2022 is good cover for Granger. Yesterday, my dealer told me he had no buildable MY '21 units that matched to his customer orders out of his 2021 allocation and Ford had offered him buildable units to sell as stock (that would count against his customer allocations) and he refused the units so as to protect his customer orders for MY '22 build.Oh, I gotcha....no, they haven't come out and said that publicly, they would never do that to avoid an even bigger outcry on going back on their commitment. They just quietly sent the dealers the allocation process for 2022, which says it in effect. A very cowardly way to do it...so good point.
Exactly....those were AT THE TIME OF RESERVATION....when people slapped down a deposit. It is common business practice to keep promises made at the time of deposit. Most Bronco orderees don't even know what "allocation" means in context. They just know that when they reserved, it clearly stated that they would be built in basic timestamp order, and that all reservations would be built prior to building stock units. Simple to understand, and simple to keep those commitments. When we could move dealers, Ford implored us all to agree on a price before ordering...so people obviously sought the best price, per encouragement from Ford.To be fair, that was at time of reservation (which most of us didn’t read since we were fighting the website just to place our res). Many things changed ie. allocations and were discussed before converting to order and/or switching dealers. I still find it odd that some are acting like allocations are new as of last week.
That dealer made a bad decision and isn't very informed about allocations. He basically forfeited his '21 MY allocation and in no way would it have affected any reservation holder whatsoever. Allocation doesn't rollover from one year to the next.Yesterday, my dealer told me he had no buildable MY '21 units that matched to his customer orders out of his 2021 allocation and Ford had offered him buildable units to sell as stock (that would count against his customer allocations) and he refused the units so as to protect his customer orders for MY '22 build.
I don’t get it doesn’t Ford want to sell vehicles and would want to fill the orders that are placed no matter whether it’s a small dealer or a large dealer they’re selling freaking cars. @Ford Motor Company is reneging on their initial reservation system they said the orders would be filled based on the timestamp there was no mention of dealer allocation.In case you forgot over the weekend @ford_motor_company ‘s official stance on all small market dealers .
Well, I think the purpose of this thread is Granger is just covering their butt. I think their order volume pushed them outside of being delivered all in calendar year 2022. It could be even before the apparent MY '22 adjustment to the allocation schedule, Granger was going to have orders that will slip to calendar year 2023. Uncovering such an issue under the guise of a Ford change in allocation scheme for 2022 is good cover for Granger. Yesterday, my dealer told me he had no buildable MY '21 units that matched to his customer orders out of his 2021 allocation and Ford had offered him buildable units to sell as stock (that would count against his customer allocations) and he refused the units so as to protect his customer orders for MY '22 build.
And this is why I switched reservations yesterday. I couldn't get my dealer to give me any answers about first month 22' allocation numbers, how many 21' orders were built or delivered, etc. I could have good still or had no chance for a 22', with zero dealer answers there's no way to make an informed decision about what to do.That dealer made a bad decision and isn't very informed about allocations. He basically forfeited his '21 MY allocation and in no way would it have affected any reservation holder whatsoever. Allocation doesn't rollover from one year to the next.
I was reviewing the Starlink website and checked in on the click-through URLs... It made me think of this discussion with you.You didn't read what i wrote. Everything in this sentence is wrong. Go do some legal research on the enforceability of click through and URL terms, which is exactly how Ford had this set up.