I wasn't aware of the Jeep JL clutch issue. Just reading about it, apparently one of the fixes is a software update, to limit engine power under certain conditions when high heat is generated due to slipping. Interesting. To me that seems like a bit of a band-aid approach. Leastways all my old 4x4 clutches survived just fine, without needing sensors/software to watch over them and mod the power for protection.
I’m not defending Jeep, because I think it is very shoddy that they build a manual trans too weak to perform its intended duty and bandaid fix it.
Seriously, if the gas and brake pedals are spaced far enough apart that boots don’t interfere, then they will be way too far apart for heel-toe downshifting. Plus, you can’t feel the clutch engagement with boots. There is lots of mud and snow here, but I never drive my cars with boots. If I need boots, I put them on at the trail head and take them off when I return to the vehicle. I really, really hope they don’t space the pedals for boots!
Sucks that you've had such a bad experience with them. Speaking from my own experience, I've had nothing but pure joy from the getrag in my 335i. it is truly one of the biggest things I will miss about the car when it's gone, and hands down the best manual transmission I've ever had.
Must be a subjective thing, because I thought my F30 had the most rubbery, lifeless manual I've ever driven in a 'sporty' car. I turned in the lease 6 months early just to get away from that awful steering/shifter. I once test drove a 6th gen 6MT Camaro right after driving my F30, and guess which one actually drove like a BMW? Hint, it wasn't the BMW. And the Camaro doesn't even have a great 6MT.
Glad you had good luck with your Getrag. But most likely the Getrag in your BMW wasn't made in China? What model Getrag was it? It cost me a lot to put a Tremec T-56 in my Mustang, but so far I'm loving it! It's like night & day. Shifts so nice and smooth. Much better than the Getrag MT82. No loose slop, from the remote shifter, even though it was an MGW Shifter. No notchy shifts, no 2nd gear lockout. The Tremec is great!
I almost exclusively wear boots. Never been a problem clutching from 3 speeds to 15. Gas, diesel, and propane. On road or off. Fast or slow. Of course I only ever use the clutch about half the time im driving. Really only need it for hills and starts.
well shit, I appear to have been talking out of my ass. could've sworn it was a getrag unit, but apparently it's the same ZF that goes into the M2/3/4
That sucks and I hope you get it fixed soon but there are probably more relevant threads with more up-to-date information. Before today, the last response to this thread was 727 days ago.
You are correct. Gotta get the word out!
