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In my '98 Mazda B4000, the gearshift hit any taller beverages (16 oz bottles or tumblers) in the drivers cupholder when shifting into 2nd gear and the passengers in 4th. Swapping my beverage between passenger and driver cupholders just became part of the shifting process. Passengers just had to hang onto their beverage until we got on a highway.
I'd take that again if it guaranteed a manual in the Bronco.
Total win with this story. I can picture it perfectly. LOL



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"As far as 4Runner, this should certainly be more 'fresh' of an interior, more powerful engine, and if it floats your boat, topless."

"If it's as capable as a 4Runner, or even a little more, that's pretty good company. 4Runners will go a ton of places."

"Yup. 4Runner is likely what I'll buy if this doesn't fit the bill for whatever reason. "

this, this and this ..... interior HAS to be wider than a wrangler or 4Runner it is :fingerscrossed:
 

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My curiosity got the better of me...

I tried to do the best I could accounting for the perspective of the photographer and started by locating hardpoints. Then I marked the travel to "level" with a yellow box (because its easy to scale and rotate boxes for comparison). Then I have a white box for both the control arm length estimate and the tire radius.
If I assume the Control arm is 14" like Stampede said then I get more like 5" rebound, if I go by a very conservative tire radius estimate of 32" (it should be more) I get more like 6.5"

The truth may lie somewhere in between, or maybe better considering the tire and/or control arms may be bigger than the assumptions used here. Either way it doesn't look too bleak to me.
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I tried to do the best I could accounting for the perspective of the photographer and started by locating hardpoints.
You've looked at this in so many ways...both with the pride of a 'maker' and the enthusiasm of a 'buyer'. Having seen many pictures now, what's your best estimate of the 2dr/4dr wheelbases?
 

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You've looked at this in so many ways...both with the pride of a 'maker' and the enthusiasm of a 'buyer'. Having seen many pictures now, what's your best estimate of the 2dr/4dr wheelbases?
I made a drawing for that one as well, I think you can find it on the homepage. Not the best methodology mind you
 

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My curiosity got the better of me...

I tried to do the best I could accounting for the perspective of the photographer and started by locating hardpoints. Then I marked the travel to "level" with a yellow box (because its easy to scale and rotate boxes for comparison). Then I have a white box for both the control arm length estimate and the tire radius.
If I assume the Control arm is 14" like Stampede said then I get more like 5" rebound, if I go by a very conservative tire radius estimate of 32" (it should be more) I get more like 6.5"

The truth may lie somewhere in between, or maybe better considering the tire and/or control arms may be bigger than the assumptions used here. Either way it doesn't look too bleak to me.
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Are you saying 6.5” of travel isn’t bad for an off-road vehicle?
 

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I made a drawing for that one as well, I think you can find it on the homepage.
If you're still in the 116" camp on the 4-door....combining that with the 6g administrator promoting "Sunny Joe" to an 'eyewitness' on the homepage...I'm gonna guess the 2-door is @2-3 inches longer, and 3-4 wider than the 2020 Wrangler
 

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Are you saying 6.5” of travel isn’t bad for an off-road vehicle?
No, I didn't bother to include an estimate for jounce travel which is hard to do without a lot of assumptions we don't have. Rebound is just the travel from ride height to full droop, that's what I was calculating. Given what the rebound is, I would be very surprised if the full wheel travel is less than 10" in any configuration, let alone this version
 

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"As far as 4Runner, this should certainly be more 'fresh' of an interior, more powerful engine, and if it floats your boat, topless."

"If it's as capable as a 4Runner, or even a little more, that's pretty good company. 4Runners will go a ton of places."

"Yup. 4Runner is likely what I'll buy if this doesn't fit the bill for whatever reason. "

this, this and this ..... interior HAS to be wider than a wrangler or 4Runner it is :fingerscrossed:
I think Ford is going for Toyota more than for Jeep haha, trick
 

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No, I didn't bother to include an estimate for jounce travel which is hard to do without a lot of assumptions we don't have. Rebound is just the travel from ride height to full droop, that's what I was calculating. Given what the rebound is, I would be very surprised if the full wheel travel is less than 10" in any configuration, let alone this version
10” will be comparable to a stock Rubicon, but still need a low speed sway bar disconnect to get full articulation.
 

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Interestingly, it does not appear that the outer border is entirely illuminated, with the bottom side being dark on both lights, though the passenger side lamp has a small portion illuminated. Is this a design choice, or a malfunction? It’s not clear yet.
I think that’s just the camo unevenly touching the lights. The taillight on the right side has two illuminated corners while the one on the left side only has one illuminated corner. That tells me we’re not seeing all of the illumination on at least the left side, and likely not seeing the whole illumination on the right side, either.

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At the 3:35 mark of the TFL video below, Paul Wraith, Program Chief Designer on Bronco, says the Bronco R taillights are “an extremely light tease to the formline we’re keen to bring back.”



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So I’d expect something sorta like the shape of Nevada, with the reverse light just below the incomplete red illumination bits of the spy shot.
 

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No, I didn't bother to include an estimate for jounce travel which is hard to do without a lot of assumptions we don't have. Rebound is just the travel from ride height to full droop, that's what I was calculating. Given what the rebound is, I would be very surprised if the full wheel travel is less than 10" in any configuration, let alone this version
Thank you for the clarification.
That kind of wheel travel is impressive, most trucks have considerably less from the factory.
 

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I've been trying to find hard numbers for the Ranger and Ranger Raptor front and rear wheel travel but I can't find them anywhere. Anybody have any ideas?
 

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I've been trying to find hard numbers for the Ranger and Ranger Raptor front and rear wheel travel but I can't find them anywhere. Anybody have any ideas?
From what I have found, ford hasn't published any numbers. Maybe in an effort to keep some secrecy to the bronco?
 























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