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For peeps claiming this is the worst vehicle release ever…

Now before we can accurately make a claim such as that we have to break down different factors that play into the current release of this Ford model and see if we can’t compare it to previous tumultuous periods in the brands history. Granted there have only been so many such instances of global pandemics that have a compounding effect on aspects of a vehicles release. Say the 1918 Spanish influenza as being the most noteworthy of instances. The output from Ford actually dropped from 1918 to 1919 by approximately 300,000 units. We can’t necessarily tie a causal factor between the pandemic and Fords production numbers that year but it is entirely possible. One has to also realize that trade wasn’t as prevalent in that time period as global commodities weren’t as readily mass produced nor exchanged at that time. American businesses hadn’t yet explored the benefits of cheap external labor. So we can’t really compare the impact that slowed foreign supply chains of today has on an industry that has outsourced much of its parts production. Granted modern Ford prides themselves on production at home, it still relies on the foreign market to produce much of the internal components that make up their fleet of vehicles. The importance of global supply chains plays a much more impactful role in the output for car manufacturers.

(🧐much more enjoyable read whilst sampling classical music and dubbing it with a British thespian accent…indubitably)
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Covid didn't research, design, promote or attempt to manufacture a subpar hard top.
 

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For peeps claiming this is the worst vehicle release ever…

Now before we can accurately make a claim such as that we have to break down different factors that play into the current release of this Ford model and see if we can’t compare it to previous tumultuous periods in the brands history. Granted there have only been so many such instances of global pandemics that have a compounding effect on aspects of a vehicles release. Say the 1918 Spanish influenza as being the most noteworthy of instances. The output from Ford actually dropped from 1918 to 1919 by approximately 300,000 units. We can’t necessarily tie a causal factor between the pandemic and Fords production numbers that year but it is entirely possible. One has to also realize that trade wasn’t as prevalent in that time period as global commodities weren’t as readily mass produced nor exchanged at that time. American businesses hadn’t yet explored the benefits of cheap external labor. So we can’t really compare the impact that slowed foreign supply chains of today has on an industry that has outsourced much of its parts production. Granted modern Ford prides themselves on production at home, it still relies on the foreign market to produce much of the internal components that make up their fleet of vehicles. The importance of global supply chains plays a much more impactful role in the output for car manufacturers.

(🧐much more enjoyable read whilst sampling classical music and dubbing it with a British thespian accent…indubitably)
Your presentation is very likely to result in accusations of "sounds like a Ford exec" and "just another Ford apologist." Critical thinking and logic are most abhorred, by this group.
 
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First, none of your examples were of a vehicle release event. Second, the quality or lack thereof of this event, while subjective, is the item being measured/compared to other vehicle release events as per your opening sentence. The mitigating factors you listed, even if they were apples to apples on a new vehicle launch, are irrelevant. The comparisons are on the results (or lack thereof) of the launch, not the launch weighted by the causes (real or perceived) that may have hampered the effort.

The comparative quality of an item or event does not change because it was hard or easy for Ford. It is static.

The next time you try to appear clever in a public forum, I strongly suggest that you actually be clever, it would really help the impression.
 

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Ford's decision to have early reservations/orders unfortunately highlighted the issues and delays.

Under a more traditional release, Ford would have pushed back the release, and that would have upset some customer ... but not to the extent of 150k plus customers ending up with year out reservations, and with builds constantly getting delayed and rescheduled.

I don't think Ford learned a lesson though, because they already loaded up on early reservations for the F150 Lighting, and I doubt Ford will be able to deliver on schedule.
 

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Ford has been in business since 1903. It's not like launches are a new thing for them.

After the launch problems the latest Explorer experienced I see a (bad) trend regardless of covid.
 
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First, none of your examples were of a vehicle release event. Second, the quality or lack thereof of this event, while subjective, is the item being measured/compared to other vehicle release events as per your opening sentence. The mitigating factors you listed, even if they were apples to apples on a new vehicle launch, are irrelevant. The comparisons are on the results (or lack thereof) of the launch, not the launch weighted by the causes (real or perceived) that may have hampered the effort.

The comparative quality of an item or event does not change because it was hard or easy for Ford. It is static.

The next time you try to appear clever in a public forum, I strongly suggest that you actually be clever, it would really help the impression.
It was meant in jest (see last sentence) but clearly your more logical mind doesn't understand humor, perhaps try to get a sense of one
 

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For peeps claiming this is the worst vehicle release ever…

Now before we can accurately make a claim such as that we have to break down different factors that play into the current release of this Ford model and see if we can’t compare it to previous tumultuous periods in the brands history. Granted there have only been so many such instances of global pandemics that have a compounding effect on aspects of a vehicles release. Say the 1918 Spanish influenza as being the most noteworthy of instances. The output from Ford actually dropped from 1918 to 1919 by approximately 300,000 units. We can’t necessarily tie a causal factor between the pandemic and Fords production numbers that year but it is entirely possible. One has to also realize that trade wasn’t as prevalent in that time period as global commodities weren’t as readily mass produced nor exchanged at that time. American businesses hadn’t yet explored the benefits of cheap external labor. So we can’t really compare the impact that slowed foreign supply chains of today has on an industry that has outsourced much of its parts production. Granted modern Ford prides themselves on production at home, it still relies on the foreign market to produce much of the internal components that make up their fleet of vehicles. The importance of global supply chains plays a much more impactful role in the output for car manufacturers.

(🧐much more enjoyable read whilst sampling classical music and dubbing it with a British thespian accent…indubitably)
 

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I assume you believe the shop floor is 100% robotic?

I can promise you an engineer can wear a mask for a duration of time long enough to do their job.

The pictures & e-mails were always going to occur at the same frequency as before, but a factor not mentioned is the actual state of mind of these people. How productive can someone be a year and a half in a pandemic? Especially one that has seen a political stranglehold take foot and the pandemic inside the pandemic is mental health.
 

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Anyone know how many model ts were being made for ww 1? The war ended in Nov of 1918, maybe this is why there was a big drop in output.
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