Every set of coopers we have had for daily driving and every now and then off-road have been great. We usually go with Discoverer AT3s or STTs
For straight up street driving - sure. But the Wrangler Tires you are referencing are known for having really thin sidewalls.For your needs why not stick with what Ford chose? The lightest 34.4” known to man. The Goodyear’s. 10 pounds lighter than those K02’s. Rotational, unsprung, and static weight loss is your friend, my friend…
I appreciate all the responses. From most of my research this weekend (from truck/off-road forums to professional reviews), it seems feedback is about 3:1 on the K02's being fine in the rain versus not great in the rain. And this of course has many of its own variables, from the slippery experience being on oily roads after a fresh rain to overinflated tires.... so who knows.
Ironically, if you take any of the other tires that were mentioned in the thread here and do a google search for "[tire name] in rain" you will find posts/reviews of people saying the rain traction is great, and others saying it sucks. I don't get the impression there's any magic bullet.
In summary, who knows... The K02's are about $70 less per tire than the Nitto's, $90 less than the Falkens, and $50 less than the Toyo open country's per tire. I honestly just don't think I've read anything that convinces me any of the other options are significantly better than the K02's in rain, especially for another $250-$500 for a set. I think it may be more important to focus on appropriate tire inflation and break-in than there being any A/T tire that won't have the occasional slippage issue in wet conditions. I think I'm back where I started and the lesson is don't overinflate and don't drive like a potato.
This was interesting: https://www.tirerack.com/tires/surv...width=35X&ratio=12.5&diameter=17&cameFrom=TSR
Anyone have experience with General Grabbers or Yoko Geolanders? Getting good vibes on the Geolanders. May be a nice middle ground on price and better wet traction rating than the K02's.
I guess a person has to prioritize on where they drive the most and compromise as needed.For straight up street driving - sure. But the Wrangler Tires you are referencing are known for having really thin sidewalls.
Depending on wheel choice it can almost even out. I went 17x8.5 aftermarket wheels on our '22 BB 2dr with 315/70/17 Nitto Terra Grappler G2's and the wheel / tire combo weighs less than 5lbs more than the Sasquatch setup.
My wheels are spec'd for 35x12.5x17 (VenomRex 601BL). So I've been going by that. But I certainly understand tires can be stretched, etc to fit a variety of specs.Is there a reason you're tied to 35x12.5x17 instead of 315/70/17?
Height and width vary by manufacturer anyway.
These are the Nitto Terra Grappler G2s with the specs
It's not stretch I referred to. The specs I posted are just the tire. It varies my manufacturer and tire model.My wheels are spec'd for 35x12.5x17 (VenomRex 601BL). So I've been going by that. But I certainly understand tires can be stretched, etc to fit a variety of specs.
That's quite the boast. I've run that route in my M3 flat out. If they held up on that stretch with no slips, that's saying something for sure.I just put a set of 33" KO2's on my H3T five weeks ago. This past Saturday I just ran them out Route 50 in Virginia/West Virgina from Winchester, VA to PawPaw, WV in heavy rain. RT 50 from Winchester to Paw Paw is a road course-level race track. The KO2's stick in the rain as good as the Michelin Pilot Sports AS4's on any of my three BMWs.
I was quite impressed with the KO2's.
FWIW, last month I paid $338 each plus install for my 315/70/17 Wildpeaks AT3s. They come highly recommended here in MN for their snow traction and relatively quiet manners on road.Here's where I'm at with more research in no particular order:
-Yokohoma Geolander G015 ($335)
-BFG K02's ($355)
-General Grabber ($375)
-Toyo Open Country ATIII ($405)
-Falken Wildpeak ($423)