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Please let us know the release and design plan for heavier rear springs for use with rigs carrying weight like RTT, gear, fridge, etc etc
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Those are two different things but yes we have heavier duty rear springs in the works. I do not have a timeline for them.@Dusty at ICON, I am in need of stiffer rear shocks. Is there any plans for heavier-duty rear springs?
Can you share what the factory spring rates are for the 4dr SAS?Those are two different things but yes we have heavier duty rear springs in the works. I do not have a timeline for them.
Sorry I don't have that information.Can you share what the factory spring rates are for the 4dr SAS?
I can't speak for the other manufacturers but for us there are a couple of hurdles. First is that there are only a couple of spring manufacturers, and they make springs for everybody, so there's always a bottleneck. Not just for production runs but for prototyping as well, and a new spring design goes through several rounds of prototype and revision. The other issue at play is that Broncos aren't the only vehicles out there. I know for us Bronco enthusiasts it seems like these companies should have nothing else to work on. But that's also how the Toyota, Jeep, Raptor and pickup guys feel too. So there are always dozens of R&D projects working their way through at any one time.Every manufacturer and their mother has been saying “yes heavier springs in the works” for over a year with not a single release. I’m wondering if there is some systemic issue. Like what’s the problem?
I greatly appreciate the context as I’m genuinely curious. But during the height of COVID manufacturing and supply chain issues back in 2021 and early 2022 spring manufactures were able to release dozens of different spring products including icon. But 2 years later and we still don’t have a single pair of heavy springs. I’m the peanut gallery here but the bronco I’d assume is the overlanding SUV of choice with its IFS. Seems whoever releases these things first will make a killing.I can't speak for the other manufacturers but for us there are a couple of hurdles. First is that there are only a couple of spring manufacturers, and they make springs for everybody, so there's always a bottleneck. Not just for production runs but for prototyping as well, and a new spring design goes through several rounds of prototype and revision. The other issue at play is that Broncos aren't the only vehicles out there. I know for us Bronco enthusiasts it seems like these companies should have nothing else to work on. But that's also how the Toyota, Jeep, Raptor and pickup guys feel too. So there are always dozens of R&D projects working their way through at any one time.
Seems supply chain just gets worseI greatly appreciate the context as I’m genuinely curious. But during the height of COVID manufacturing and supply chain issues back in 2021 and early 2022 spring manufactures were able to release dozens of different spring products including icon. But 2 years later and we still don’t have a single pair of heavy springs. I’m the peanut gallery here but the bronco I’d assume is the overlanding SUV of choice with its IFS. Seems whoever releases these things first will make a killing.
I think that might be the view from where you sit. Yes there are a lot of overlanders. And every one of them has a YouTube channel so it makes it seem like every Bronco out there has a rooftop tent, fridge and a thousand pounds of Goose Gear. But back out for the wider view and you'll see that it's actually a relatively small percentage of the total. So the incentive from a numbers perspective isn't quite as strong as it may look to someone who is immersed in that community. But it's still a significant sub-market, and since it's all-enthusiasts, we (and I'm sure the other companies) want to be a part of it. But it's not quite a "drop everything else until this is done" type of thing.I greatly appreciate the context as I’m genuinely curious. But during the height of COVID manufacturing and supply chain issues back in 2021 and early 2022 spring manufactures were able to release dozens of different spring products including icon. But 2 years later and we still don’t have a single pair of heavy springs. I’m the peanut gallery here but the bronco I’d assume is the overlanding SUV of choice with its IFS. Seems whoever releases these things first will make a killing.