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The 4600 build they showed at king of the hammers has portal boxes. You can get height without impacting cv angles. Not sure about cost or aftermarket availability.
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The 4600 build they showed at king of the hammers has portal boxes. You can get height without impacting cv angles. Not sure about cost or aftermarket availability.
The Bad

First of all, these bloody things are heavy, and they are heavy in a bad way. 4WD’s already have a massive amount of unsprung weight. Unsprung weight is the weight of all the components on a vehicle not being held up by the suspension, like for instance the wheels, brakes and axles. The more weight, the more this mass responds to movements and forces on its own, eliminating the effects of proper suspension tuning. They are also not known for their on-road performance and many are only good for a top speed of 100kmh, if that. So if your 4WD is a daily driver, Portals may not be for you.

Of course, bolting up a Portal axle under your rig is never going to be a painless affair. While there are dedicated bolt in axles designed to fit popular 4WD’s, the cheaper way is to get a set of Portals off a Unimog or some other manic military vehicle. This route will require a heavy amount of fabrication to make the axles fit within the vehicle specifications as well as to keep proper suspension geometry.

Portals have more parts, which means they require more maintenance, as you would expect. Along with the differential, there are oil reservoirs required for both portals. Ideally, you will need to replace the oil in all three reservoirs every 8,000 km.

The Ugly

Of course, anything this extreme costs big boy money, and in the case of Mopar Portals, expect to dump at least $12,500 on a single axle. Double that with the two needed and you have a fair chunk of change that really can be better used on all manner of off-road modifications, which will likely yield better results per buck than some really cool and complex axles. There is also the option of getting used units off a Unimog or similar military vehicle for around $3000.
 

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I like how so many say you need "stiffer" springs to get lift. 😂

They got away from that idea in the 80's and 90's. No need to jar your fillings out just to get 2" of lift anymore.

Maybe just a 2" taller spring with similar rates, as a basic example?
 

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That's what I'm contemplating, not going Sasq in the beginning. The additional $$ above BL is only getting you the wheels and tires (ok maybe stiffer springs). But you're right, it's a waste of cash to go Sasq and then go 37's.
85% of us are getting automatic so don’t forget that Sas also gets you 4.7 gears.
 

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I like how so many say you need "stiffer" springs to get lift. 😂

They got away from that idea in the 80's and 90's. No need to jar your fillings out just to get 2" of lift anymore.

Maybe just a 2" taller spring with similar rates, as a basic example?
That's how it works on coil and shock setups like Jeep, but coilovers are a different animal. You can put longer coilover assemblies in but that usually has suspension geometry issues. So stiffer springs lift the vehicle without having to reengineer the vehicle.
 

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85% of us are getting automatic so don’t forget that Sas also gets you 4.7 gears.
Yes. So much more information has come out since this thread. Went ahead and got Sasquatch. Even lifts in the future don't appear to be an issue.
 

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Taller springs also lift vehicles. Coils would be overall taller. Leaf springs, it would be more arc.

Now that's not always the case. Sometimes you get a heavy-ride lift coil it might be the same height as the spring you take out, but you will notice the wire diameter is bigger and sometimes there would be less number of coils.

A lift manufacturer will typically add spring rate to help counter the raised ride height and to account for all the heavy accessories that most people add to their4x4s.
 
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Y'all know that bro-dozers aren't the best off-roaders right?
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