Agree, pretty haphazard. Guessing they just withheld the real purpose of the B&P as long as they could because the future was so uncertain. They probably didn't even know themselves whether it would be the real deal or not while making it go live on the site. Then covid started getting worse, so now they are playing the card they were dealt...IMO would have been nice to set expectations somewhere in BOLD saying this is likely to change and to only use this tool to get a generalized idea of price. Maybe they did that but I didn't see it, so me like many others spent many many hours with the tool trying to make an increasingly hard decisionThank you so much for all of this information. This has been the best post for me so far in the forum. However, a couple things bother me. B&P was mainly for the Sport and the Bronco was just basically added to appease us with bugs? How in the world were we supposed to order on December 7th (I get it has now been moved) without accurate or total information. Also, he seems to acknowledge the interior accent colors are a debacle, how did those interior choices get this far in the process? Wasn’t there any market research/testing before these colors were finalized? It just seems so disorganized for a major product launch. I hope the actual product is much more thought through. That said, I am very excited that we may actually be able to order different tops, different accent colors, and have access to more options come order time. Again, many thanks!
4 inches??4 inch difference is more than I'd expect. If true, that would be perfect for me.
The manufacturers push it off as a maintenance thing for the owners who don’t realize this. The manufacturers are improving their direct injection by adding port injection as well. The main injectors are still direct injection but the port injectors are utilized to keep the backside of the valves washed in a bit of fuel and remaining clean. Ford’s latest direct injection systems do this. It’s on the newer 2.7 that the bronco gets and on the latest iteration of the 5.0 coyote in the Mustang. That motor was just port injection at its introduction and then direct injection was added a couple years ago in 2018I don’t doubt it’s existence, but I do questions it’s advertised effects...the design is not new and has been used with many brands, who decided it wasn’t a big issue.
It usually comes down to maintenance or the loose nut behind the wheel...or both!
Scaled to the wheel on the OBX where the top of the rock rail would be / bottom of door - its 20". And on the BL its 21.5". Theres your 1.5 step in height difference (which makes sense provided the above). Maybe one person took the OBX step in height to the bottom of the door at 20" and compared that to a more truer step in height of the BL at 24". It's not apples to apples. The BL should have a 1.5" higher ride height. If it was really 4", that would mean there is a crazy 3"+ lift kit on the BL, and an even bigger lift kit on the sas. But the reality is that the sas lift is a little under 1.5"4 inches??
Yeah I don’t get it. Didn’t they say sas was a 1.2” lift. They also said BL was with 10mm (0.4”) lift from sas. So 0.8” lift.
OBX to BL would be 0.8” plus half the difference of the tire height (32.7-32.1)/2 = 1.4” total.
How does 1.4” become 4”? Was the guy running the dimension to the tube steps on OBX and picking up a couple more inches.
Even Fords website shows the total height of the BL being 1” more than a Big Bend (granted that’s underestimated since they probably hadn’t picked tires at that point) but still, everything implies that it should be much less than 4”.
No, this is not the same 2.3 from back in the day. It only share the same displacement. I worked on many, many of them and owned one myself. The 2.7 Nano came out in came out in 2015 as a turbo motor. Are you thinking of the 4.2?The 2.3 was originally just a NA motor and so was the 3.5. They added turbocharging. The 2.7 was developed as a turbo motor from the beginning. Do some reading on the 2.7. It’s the better motor. I have rebuilt the 2.0 eco boost which is just a slightly smaller version of the 2.3. Not what I want in my bronco. The 2.7 has better power potential, is more robust and has the better fuel injection system.
When you say "not the same 2.3 from back in the day", are you strictly speaking of the old 2.3L Lima motor, or also the 2.3L used in the '03-'04 Focus, which was derived from the Mazda MZR? Because I was under the impression that the later was a direct forerunner to the 2.3L Ecoboost? Of course, in that case, the Mazda version had turbo versions back then too.No, this is not the same 2.3 from back in the day. It only share the same displacement. I worked on many, many of them and owned one myself. The 2.7 Nano came out in came out in 2015 as a turbo motor. Are you thinking of the 4.2?
The 2.3 Ecoboost was updated from the Focus plant for turbo applications. There's nothing really special about purring a turbo on a motor except better components, oil and water flow to the turbo. The 2.3 is going to do great in the Bronco, but as a power nut, I'm going 2.7...When you say "not the same 2.3 from back in the day", are you strictly speaking of the old 2.3L Lima motor, or also the 2.3L used in the '03-'04 Focus, which was derived from the Mazda MZR? Because I was under the impression that the later was a direct forerunner to the 2.3L Ecoboost? Of course, in that case, the Mazda version had turbo versions back then too.
Is carbonized gray metallic or non-metallic? Thanks!I stopped by my local dealer today and met my SA. I was looking to see if there was a Carbonized Gray truck on the lot. He pointed out one of the F250's I looked stalking the lot. I think the color will do me fine. Ford has another non-metallic gray that is just gorgeous. I wish they'd drop that on the Bronco.