So my point was specifically if removable top is limiting to 3500, why isn’t the Gladiator limited to 3500 as well?
Just to be clear I never said it was the limiting factor, just possibly one small piece in a very complex puzzle.
My point was the removable roof doesn't limit the Gladiator, so I think that is not the limiting factor on the Bronco or Wrangler. I also think Ford would be stupid to artificially limit the capacity by not finding a Class III receiver to bolt on. I have a four bolt rear frame Class III / 4500lb receiver on my JK right now. How hard would that have been to find / modify for Bronco application?
I've read about European specs taking lower tongue weight ratios into effect, requiring slower max speeds. There are also different licensing requirements for drivers. (Any idiot can tow big trailer loads in the US.) When they launch Bronco in Europe or Australia, it will be interesting to see what the difference is in the tow ratings and in the rear suspension parts list. (i.e., what it is physically capable of, versus limited to by US standards)
Except it has a 2" receiver with a 7 pin and a 4 pin connection and trailer sway control built in. Unusual or a class II hitch.
I know how gvwr and payload works, I guess I’m just used to looking at trucks in the past when thinking anything of payload, and the gvwr can easily change between trims or engines, so finding only one payload cap anywhere I’ve seen for the bronco I assumed that was payload regardless and the gvwr would be different with engines/options or that if the payload was diff it would say “max available” or something not just a single rating. I mean tow cap doesn’t change, even the base that you can’t actually add the hitch to on build and price still lists as having the 3500lbs tow cap, hard to tow 3500lbs without a hitch. Haven’t seen an actual gvwr for the bronco either, just curb weight from ford. But even if as you both seem to be saying the gvwr won’t be any different across the board that still doesn’t add up. The lowest curb weight for the 4dr is with the 2.3(4500lbs), if ya assume max payload there then that only gives a gvwr of 5870lbs, if that’s the same across the board then with the highest curb weight of the 4dr with the 2.7 would only have 550lbs payload. My 3 closest friends weigh more than that together, so you’re saying ford would make a vehicle that by the sticker couldn’t even carry 3 passengers while empty even though it’s a 5 seater with cargo space? Couldn’t even throw some luggage in the back and drop family off at the airport without going over the payload? The roof can hold 450lbs, but the bronco can’t drive with more than that inside it? Guess it could be, but just seems a bit off to me. Course, even if that is the case, still doesn’t change the fact that some configuration of the bronco has plenty of payload for a slightly increased tow cap. If ford limited the engine/options/packages that you could get a 5k tow cap on what would be the big deal? Most suvs that have a tow rating have multiple tow ratings for different specs, and having a max tow option that limits engine choice and package options isn’t a new idea.Um.. those are max available. I don’t think you get what I’m saying. Payload= GVWR- curb. So if you put a engine that weighs 200lbs more and nothing else changes like wheel base or suspension you just lost 200lbs of payload. If ford is capping the Bronco at a 6k to stay in class with the wrangler and projects the curb weight in the pic that’s a pretty big difference in payload based off of configuration and options. So the way I see it curb weight effects payload and towing not so much gvcwr as the amount of tongue weight you can put on the bumper as that is part of payload.
It's not about percentages. Each component has a max weight rating for what it can hold up to. I almost guarantee in the case of the Bronco the limiting factor is suspension. Everything else could be able to carry a 10k load, but if the suspension is limited to 6k, the overall rating will be 6k.
What size wheels do you have thereThis is our camper. It fits under the 3500 lb limit. Hitch weight is at the limit. GCVWR is close to max as well. Weight distribution hitch and anti-sway bars keep it under control and the Jeep level.
So you can tow a pretty decent size camper with a 3500 lb limit. Just have to load it carefully and drive at slower speeds.
17" wheels and 35" tires. 3" lift.
Looks great! Gives me a good reference point for my future SAS
Cool story bruh.
