Is this a Rubicon tie rod???!?

[Stick in the Mud]

Is this the tie rod on a Jeep or a front stabilizer? Because if this is the tie rod then I’m completely jealous… and I see why Ford has so many issues.

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[OMTBiker]

Yes that is the tie rod, that jeep either has the full-time 4wd option or is a 392, it has CV's and not u-joints.

 

[Stick in the Mud]

Yes that is the tie rod, that jeep either has the full-time 4wd option or is a 392, it has CV's and not u-joints.

It’s a Rubicon 4xe, has 2H and a 4A yeah

 

[GI_Jo_Nathan]

Kinda glossing over the fact that Jeep has a solid front axle... Litteraly a completely different animal.

 

[Stick in the Mud]

Kinda glossing over the fact that Jeep has a solid front axle... Litteraly a completely different animal.

Yeah well I was already jealous of that

 

[Bikeric]

Yes, that is one of the sources of the Death Wobble.

 

[RagnarKon]

Yeah well I was already jealous of that

Yeah Jeep has a completely different setup so you can't really compare the two. Kind of curious why you got a Bronco though if you wanted a solid front axle. One of the big reasons why I didn't buy a Wrangler is because it has a solid front axle.

But anyway, on many vehicles--but especially independent front suspension vehicles--the tie rod is the "fuse". It's designed to break first so you don't damage other components. Once the BroncBuster folks added braces to the tie rods, they effectively bypassed that fuse, and they quickly found they were damaging the steering rack. So they had to beef that up too.

It's the curse of off-road vehicles, and Jeep owners know the game well. You upgrade one component, you find a weak link in another component. You upgrade that component too and you quickly find there is yet another weak component. Rinse/repeat until you've spent tens of thousands of dollars on upgrades.

 

[OMTBiker]

Yeah Jeep has a completely different setup so you can't really compare the two. Kind of curious why you got a Bronco though if you wanted a solid front axle. One of the big reasons why I didn't buy a Wrangler is because it has a solid front axle.

But anyway, on many vehicles--but especially independent front suspension vehicles--the tie rod is the "fuse". It's designed to break first so you don't damage other components. Once the BroncBuster folks added braces to the tie rods, they effectively bypassed that fuse, and they quickly found they were damaging the steering rack. So they had to beef that up too.

It's the curse of off-road vehicles, and Jeep owners know the game well. You upgrade one component, you find a weak link in another component. You upgrade that component too and you quickly find there is yet another weak component. Rinse/repeat until you've spent tens of thousands of dollars on upgrades.

Well said, I came from the Jeep side and am very familiar with: upgrade, break something else, upgrade. Rinse and repeat!

Jeeps are great for many things, especially hard off-roading. After 4 Jeeps and a Gladiator, we decided to go in a different direction since we do not do any hard-core off roading and hit mild trails (4-6), maybe a 7 here or there.

 

[pakrat]

Why would you buy a Bronco if you want a solid front axle? Not trying to troll anyone here but IFS is the absolute best thing about the Bronco. If I wanted a rock crawler and don't mind shitty on road manners I would have kept my Jeep. The Bronco is a dream to drive on road trips compared to any Wrangler or Gladiator. Talk about wanting to get out of a car... drive a Jeep for more than two or three hours at highway speeds. Bronco is capable enough to take on the Rubicon trail in stock form (at least sasquatch) and still take me on 10 hr. + road trips without feeling fatigued. If I needed a solid front axle for an extensive and extended basis on the regular I would still have a Jeep. Not much else is different between them.

 

[Broncotrax]

Yeah well I was already jealous of that

Yeah well I was already jealous of that

Going off of the fact that you didn't know what that was, it's very easy to assume that you've never experience death wobble. Try that at 60 mph and report back about your jealousy of a solid axle.

 

[OMTBiker]

Going off of the fact that you didn't know what that was, it's very easy to assume that you've never experience death wobble. Try that at 60 mph and report back about your jealousy of a solid axle.

Not sure I would go that far, I have never experienced death wobble (which was a good thing) in any of our Jeeps, even at 90+ MPH. Death wobble is not a certainty but is extremely common.

 

[Stick in the Mud]

It’s not a determining factor for me but honestly I thought the IFS would perform better.

 

[BAUS67]

IFS does perform better.......... in certain circumstances.

 

[Donkeygyrl]

Ifs is more comfortable on the road ,but definitely more fragile.

 

[SuperDave150]

Kinda glossing over the fact that Jeep has a solid front axle... Litteraly a completely different animal.

It needs a tie rod that big to fight death wobble. And yet they all still get it - especially if they have tires bigger than the basic 31” and/or they are used for much actual off roading.

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