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The problem is having zero idea how long the wait will actually be.Black Diamond is worth the wait.
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The problem is having zero idea how long the wait will actually be.Black Diamond is worth the wait.
Curious since you've had your BD for awhile. Any regrets going with it or do you wish you had the BL? The 12 inch screen would have been really nice, but I decided to fully load out a BD which is 6 grand less then a fully decked out BL. Cause I had to have the squash and high package if I went that route.Black Diamond is worth the wait. I’ve had mine over a week now, and I am so glad I didn’t fold to the weekly temptation for over a year to cancel and get a Willys. The BD is way better looking and probably more capable. Haven’t had a chance to get off road yet, but soon.
Sahara = Outer Banks
Rubicon = Badlands
Willys = BD, I guess
Willys Sport = Big Bend?
Side note: @Underflow, at first glance, I thought your avatar was this album cover.
Not the person you quoted… but my local dealer had both the 12” screen (showroom model) and the 8“ screen (customer order).Curious since you've had your BD for awhile. Any regrets going with it or do you wish you had the BL? The 12 inch screen would have been really nice, but I decided to fully load out a BD which is 6 grand less then a fully decked out BL. Cause I had to have the squash and high package if I went that route.
Ya beat me too it TD.Willys I think.
Yeah Bronco just offers more for the money (when there's no ADM) so you can't really get an apples to apples.I would agree, except it doesn't have the rear locker.
No regrets! I have the standard package.Curious since you've had your BD for awhile. Any regrets going with it or do you wish you had the BL? The 12 inch screen would have been really nice, but I decided to fully load out a BD which is 6 grand less then a fully decked out BL. Cause I had to have the squash and high package if I went that route.
I believe you to be correct on your trim level equivalents. I am ordering a Willy’s Sport (manual windows, no power locks) this coming week for my Dad…..Comes with rock rails, limited slip differential, 32 inch tires, heavy duty brakes (same as Rubicon), Rubicon shocks, sport springs. Unfortunately it has only a 5inch radio system, so will have to upgrade that for my dad eventually, even though he probably won’t want toIt depends what you care about.
If you are talking strictly off-roading capabilities... hard to make a comparison. The Black Diamond comes with rear locking differential. The only trim in the Wrangler that offers locking differentials is the Rubicon. But the Rubicon is more similar to the Badlands than it is to Black Diamond.
Personally I'd match them up as follows. Caveat being that this is far from a perfect 1:1 match.
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- Big Bend = Sport S / Islander
- Black Diamond = Willys
- Outer Banks = Sahara / Freedom
- Badlands = Rubicon
- Wildtrak = Sahara Altitude / High Altitude
Edit:
Almost forgot one thing... Jeep likes to have various trims that I like to call "sub-trims". (No idea what they're actually called.) The low-end trims are called "Sport", while the high-end trims are called "Altitude".
For example... a Willys Sport is the stripped-down version of the Willys trim. Then there is the standard Willys trim. Willys Altitude doesn't exist, but if it did it would be the high-end version of the Willys trim.
Die-hard Wrangler people probably will disagree with me. But in my opinion there are only four trims: Sport, Willys, Sahara, and Rubicon. Everything else... including the odd-ball trims such as Islander, Freedom, and RHD... are just variations on the core four trims.
- Sport - base level
- Willys - entry-level off road
- Sahara - all about that style
- Rubicon - advanced off road