Just test drove a 2 Door WT ... Eh! Some disappointing discoveries.

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I daily drove an 03 Cobra for three years, and that pretty much ruined most cars for me. Even my 2015 Mustang GT didn't compare to a roots supercharged V8 that was tuned. I suspect there's a lot going on with the wastegates on the turbos, because squeezing everything out of turbos doesn't usually translate to a predictable power application for most drivers. If you're not used to the rubber band type effect of turbos when they spool they can put you in the ditch or worse. Having a predictable naturally aspirated engine goes a long way towards control and not upsetting the suspension when you're near the limits of traction.

And then there's warranty concerns like I mentioned before. Torque management keeps drivers from breaking stuff. Throttle by wire, direct injection, coil on plug ignition, and variable valve timing all make it pretty easy to neuter the torque curve on an engine these days.
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#1 100% that is the first thing I noticed. Its like facing down. Very odd position.
 

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I daily drove an 03 Cobra for three years, and that pretty much ruined most cars for me. Even my 2015 Mustang GT didn't compare to a roots supercharged V8 that was tuned. I suspect there's a lot going on with the wastegates on the turbos, because squeezing everything out of turbos doesn't usually translate to a predictable power application for most drivers. If you're not used to the rubber band type effect of turbos when they spool they can put you in the ditch or worse. Having a predictable naturally aspirated engine goes a long way towards control and not upsetting the suspension when you're near the limits of traction.

And then there's warranty concerns like I mentioned before. Torque management keeps drivers from breaking stuff. Throttle by wire, direct injection, coil on plug ignition, and variable valve timing all make it pretty easy to neuter the torque curve on an engine these days.
Another thing to remember is newer cars are going to feel slower especially compared to older cars. Like your example of the mustang, same for me.

I had an 04 GT, 4.10s, exhaust, CAI, tuned, under drive pullies. It felt so much faster than my 07 Mustang GT did....my 07 was over a half second faster in the 1/4.
 

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Be prepared. The Defender 90 looks cool on the outside, but with that whimpy dash shifter feels strange - like not like an off-road vehicle at all / maybe an upscale version of a London cab. I does not have the purpose built feel at all.

OK so I drove the Defender 90. It is quite different than the Bronco. The Defender is an extremely capable vehicle that is also posh. I definitely loved the interior feels and views. Will it do what a bronco will do? I don't think so. The Bronco is more purpose built. I think if off roading was something I did regularly, I might feel differently, but the fact is that this thing was always going to be my daily and needed to keep me comfortable through Chicago winters. I also probably would have liked the Bronco more if it was smaller. If they could/would have made this in the size of the original, I know I would of been more into it, but the view from the drivers seat looked like I was driving an aircraft carrier. Also, not to take a crap on it even more, but that shifter in the AUTOMATIC , looks like a dong and balls. Yeah I said it, try to unsee it.
 
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Out of All the reviews online that I have seen,this is the first one to complain about the power....Take that for what it's worth....
Again, my review was simply that the 2.7 was not as rambunctious as one would have thought BUT it is the 2.3 with Sasquatch that was the Red flag.

Honestly, I don't care... Actually I take that back ... I do care because the more people that stick with the 2.3 the chances increase of me getting my 2.7 due to commodity constraints.

But there are people on this board that have haven't even gotten to see a Bronco in person let alone drive one. So I wanted to share my thoughts there have been several other folks on here that agreed with my assessment.

now if folks are coming from older vehicles (or jeeps) that never really had much umph...the yeah I can see them being impressed.

i only wish a Tune was possible to truly wake up the Engine, but I live in Cali, need I say more.
 

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Again, my review was simply that the 2.7 was not as rambunctious as one would have thought BUT it is the 2.3 with Sasquatch that was the Red flag.

Honestly, I don't care... Actually I take that back ... I do care because the more people that stick with the 2.3 the chances increase of me getting my 2.7 due to commodity constraints.

But there are people on this board that have haven't even gotten to see a Bronco in person let alone drive one. So I wanted to share my thoughts there have been several other folks on here that agreed with my assessment.

now if folks are coming from older vehicles (or jeeps) that never really had much umph...the yeah I can see them being impressed.

i only wish a Tune was possible to truly wake up the Engine, but I live in Cali, need I say more.
Just check this out. Pray that Ford Performance makes one for the bronco. https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-9603-REB

50 state legal, carb approved. Have one on the Ranger in Cali, dealer installed.
 

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I just returned an Outer Banks 4 door soft top with the 2.7 and B & O stereo.
I'm a rocker and everyone thought the sounds with the top down were great. As far as power it seemed ok. I had it for three days and drove it over 400 miles.
It performed very well out in our fields, I even got about three feet of air with a very smooth landing. My wife has 2 14" rods in her back and she found it very comfortable.
This one didn't have the 35" wheels like ours will.
Now that I had a chance to drive one for three days I'm chomping at the bit to get ours.
We've had a Vin# since April 15th and now have a new build week of 8/23.
Can't wait!!!!
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So took about a 30 minute drive in a 2 Door WT (Roseville, CA)....

Put it like this: imagine that woman you've been dreaming about getting into bed for say...a year... And you finally do, and she just lays there! Sure, it was enjoyable, but not really what you had imagined. Would you do it again if given the chance.... No doubt! but that fantasy has been shattered.

Flame away, but here are my take aways..

1) very first thing I noticed was that the dash seemed like it was pointing at my feet. I'm not very tall but the dash is pointing straight out at my chest instead of being slightly tilted back. Yeah I'll get used to it, but I the taller you are, I can imagine the worse the angle gets.

2) The sound system (not B&O, only had Mid package) was horrific. Has to be one of the worst I've had in any of my cars in the last two or three decades. I never realized what a difference door speakers make. I cranked up the volume and it sounded like crap. Noticing the rear speakers were tiny so I faded the sound just to the back and they may as well have been a pair of headsets.. terrible sounding.... No way in hell I'm paying the extra for Lux, but dang Ford... Really?

3) let me apologize ahead of time to all my fellow members of the forum... But it's about the engine. I have a Mazda 3 with the 2.5 n/a. When in sports mode, it puts you back in your seat. The Bronco is twice as heavy AND it had 35's, but with the 2.7 twin Turbo'd, I had expected at least the same. Not really. I dunno, maybe something was out of wack (like crap gas) but there was nothing there AND I had it in sports mode....MY point is not about the 2.7 but about the 2.3... I can not imagine any world in which I would want the 2.3 in a Bronco with Sasquatch ( or possibly just any 4 door trim). This was a 2 door on 35s with the 2.7 and the power was sufficient but that was about it. It had good pull from a dead stop...but going say 40ish and then stomping on it... Eeh.

4) maybe not a big deal, but at one point I pulled over to pop the top off, At least the driver's side and went to go put it in the back of the two door.. couldn't really figure out how to fit it. I'm sure it would fit somehow but it was tight and I didn't want to scratch anything up so I put it back on.

Some good things....

1) this particular Bronco I looked at the sound deadening around the latches and it was impressive and was cut very well with rounded corners. Very little top was exposed. I would have taken a picture but in true Murphy fashion I forgot my phone.

2) this particular one was in velocity blue. I never thought about this color since it was late availability but it is metallic and gorgeous. I was convinced I was going to switch my color of choice to it, But I just think it might show scratches and dirt more than I would like (I'm going with Iconic for functionality and durability)

3) this Bronco had the cloth camouflaged seats and I absolutely love them. If you don't like a darker tan color I understand. But if you were one of the ones that freaked out over the camouflage dark middles, I just really don't think it's that big of a deal. I actually had to remind myself to look closely to tell that it was camouflaged.

4) it is big so I kind of like that feeling. The hood is large so it took a little bit of getting used to but I think in the long run, especially for those getting camera, think you'll be okay. Definitely not the kind of visibility I'm used to in my cars but then again this isn't a car.

... If I think of anything else I'll update.
If you have ordered a Bronco, now is a good time to cancel. Dreaming of a girl you want to have sex with, as an illustration for your Bronco expectations?
 
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I just returned an Outer Banks 4 door soft top with the 2.7 and B & O stereo.
I'm a rocker and everyone thought the sounds with the top down were great. As far as power it seemed ok. I had it for three days and drove it over 400 miles.
It performed very well out in our fields, I even got about three feet of air with a very smooth landing. My wife has 2 14" rods in her back and she found it very comfortable.
This one didn't have the 35" wheels like ours will.
Now that I had a chance to drive one for three days I'm chomping at the bit to get ours.
We've had a Vin# since April 15th and now have a new build week of 8/23.
Can't wait!!!!
Lou Cyber orange 2.7, 2 door Wildtrak.
You wife has rods in her back and you are catching air? Do you not like her? 😁
 

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I only wish a Tune was possible to truly wake up the Engine, but I live in Cali, need I say more.
So what you are saying is that you need a drone strike called in on CARB headquarters???
 

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Only if it's very precise, I work near that building :)
Well considering that the circular error of probability would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 meters using the correct platform, you would probably be ok if something relatively modern... You should be ok. :p
 

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You wife has rods in her back and you are catching air? Do you not like her? 😁
I do like my wife a lot, she has been putting up with me for 41 years.
She was not in the Bronco at that time.
But she was in our hay field and she thought it rode exceptionally smooth. Can't wait to get ours.
Lou
 

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That's funny because just a few hours ago I test drove a WT SAS 2.7L & I was floored by the get up & go it had. Last fall I tested a 2.3L lifted ranger & was satisfied with the output. I guess to each their own..
Thats probably because your other car isn’t a Mazda. No offense to the OP, but when I read a lot of these comparisons/complaints they aren’t apples to oranges. Personally I could care less how my Bronco takes off from a stoplight, I’m more worried about it climbing that hill that everyone will say I shouldn’t.;)
 

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I test drove this exact same Wildtrack today and I was not disappointed with the 2.7 at all. There was no turbolag from a stop when in Sport mode. The turbolag was definitely noticeable in Normal and Eco modes. That being said I also drove the 2.3 MT Badlands right after it and while I could tell that the 2.7 had more torque the 2.3 with the manual was actually more fun to drive and did not feel underpowered. The only reason I am sticking with 2.7 is because of the port injection and compacted graphite block. If I don't get a build date in the next two weeks I may change to the 2.3.
 
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