LAST CALL: Badlands 33” vs. 35” (Pros & Cons) Worth the upgrade to 35” tires?

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This is just me, but if I could do a Sasquatch “lite” with all the upgrades, but the stock tires for ~$2k less I would absolutely do that, and use that $2k for a lift and 37’s.

For a badlands, I’d do the same thing but that’s just me.
 

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I have seen that preliminary sheet from July 14 2020 and it may be correct, if so I stand corrected! Until its confirmed on B&P or until ordering time, I cant assume it’s an option. Also states that the Sasquatch has optional warm alloy beauty ring (where is that in B&P?), I know that they are still working on fixing and updating B&P, so hopefully these options are updated with all 3 beadlock choices.
I wanted to add, as of right now it does look like the FE & WT get the black beauty ring and the Squatch gets the warm alloy beauty ring! Maybe the Badlands will have the optional carbonized beauty ring, but according to that preliminary spec sheet it looks like its going to be a 8” rim, instead of the 8.5” rim.
 

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Truth be told, there is only a tiny chance I'll ever get a Warthog, but 99% change I'll get a Badlands w/33s. :)
I have a question for you as you seem to be pretty well versed on the nuances of the different wheel/tire considerations. I am trying to finalize my build, which is either BL or OBX. My question for you is this, if I get the SASQ package with either trim and I find that the 35s are a bit much relative to mph, noise, ride quality, etc., can I shift to 33s when the 35s wear out and need replacement? If so what are the considerations to keep in mind?
 

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Why do you believe these prices will go up?
Because their early surveys indicated the price for V6 would be higher, and all other options are exactly priced at what the survey said.

Also, I haven't done this yet but at a glance the math doesn't appear to work out with the price of a fully optioned Badlands vs. the First Edition. They are identical on the Bronco Sport, so i would expect the same on Bronco.

I admit that I haven't done a detailed comparison of survey vs. actual options, I'm just going off of memory. Again, I also haven't done a detailed comparison Badlands vs. FE.

Just going off of gut feel, so somebody prove me wrong please.
 

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You can select 4.7 gearing on Badlands without going Sasquatch.
I understood that Badlands gets 4.7 in the rear and badsquatch adds 4.7 in the front. (Because I'm getting manual BL)
 
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Took some photos of the wheels at super cel east. Left is the optional BL 33" Goodyear MT on optional wheels. Carbonized ring. Looks like ring comes off but I don't know if it is beadlock capable. (I don't know anything about beadlocks.)

I like the optional wheel but I haven't decided on paying the extra $995 yet. I'm staying with the 33" Ko2's.

Right photo is Sasquatch 35" on Sasquatch wheels. Silver ring
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This is to soften the possible sasquatch tire shortages.
 

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I recently upgraded my wheels and tires and went with a 285/75/17 Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLT, I believe its a new model in the past few years. Anyway, its between the 33 and 35 at pretty much exactly 33.7". Also, not as wide as the 315/70's and it weigh less. My experience with E rated LTs, is the weight can really mess with mileage, and noise. I went with the 285/75 to get the taller sidewall and reduce the chance of rubbing, and had no problem. I only put a 2" leveling kit on the front with the Bilstein 6112's on the highest setting, and the Bilstein 5100's on the rear may have raised it up about 0.5".

My brother in law rented a jeep with 37's, so he had no problem out in Moab and the white rim trail was no problem for either vehicle. I scraped once on the side step, but no visible marks.

i'm going with a 2 dr BD, want the mt with the mid package (<$40k), but will go with the AT and 2.7 if that doesn't happen, and then other than tow package will go stock and wait for after market lift/shock options. The F-150 can easily handle up to a 2" front lift with no other mods, including the upper control arm, I have no problems. Would expect the Bronco to be similar dimensionally, upgrade the front coil over for a minimal lift, the rear should be easy as well, and then you could put the 34" tire on pretty easy. I really like the 2.7 that I have on the F-150, I did do a tune and it added about 48 HP and 60 TQ running 93. I'm running the 89 tune as they don't have 93 everywhere and it's pretty close.

You also need to monitor the wheel offset and then you can get the look you want. I got a tire and wheel package for $1600 and sold my takeoffs for $800. I really don't mind the cheap wheels but may upgrade those to a Method brand. The cheap wheels did fine in Moab. My tires stay inside the fenders and as I mentioned, have no clearance issues.

The tires are almost as quiet as the OEM, gas mileage dropped about 1 mpg.



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I have a question for you as you seem to be pretty well versed on the nuances of the different wheel/tire considerations. I am trying to finalize my build, which is either BL or OBX. My question for you is this, if I get the SASQ package with either trim and I find that the 35s are a bit much relative to mph, noise, ride quality, etc., can I shift to 33s when the 35s wear out and need replacement? If so what are the considerations to keep in mind?
Obvious one is resetting speedometer. I guess the dealership can do this.

Sasquatch has final gearing of 4.7 and also advanced transfer gearing of 3.06 vs 2.72 relative to shift in the fly 4x4 that is standard on OBX.

Sasquatch has been optimized to work with 4.7 (35s). BL has been optimized to work with 4.46 (33s). OBX with diff upgrade has 4.27 (32s).

Dropping Squatch PKG to 33s means you'll be running them at 4.7 gearing which may be too low? You will be able to rock crawl super slow, but your speed on the highway will be reduced. I have no idea how the 10 sp automatic will behave when you make the change, maybe someone more knowledgeable can chime in? There is a free option for BL to come with 4.7, but it seems to me folks interested in this are considering it so they can switch up to a larger size like 37s & not down to 33s.

Big question mark for me is suspension travel? Badlands travel is 4cm longer than Sasquatch, so I think (not positive) that Squatching BL actually reduces articulation. So, dropping back down to 33s on Squatched BL shoots yourself in the foot as you've accomplished killing your suspension travel. Ford has been hush hush about suspension specs because (imo) Squatch travel is fairly limited, esp compared to competition (Jeep Rubicon).
 

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