M210 Front Axle Swap?

[Bigguyry2000]

I wired mine separately and opted not to try factory integration because the front diff unlocks at 20mph via the computer.

I have the FAD section with the actuator bolted under the truck at the moment. Don't really want to spend $825 after dropping $5k in axles & shafts just to fix a block of code.

Maybe Ford will do the right thing and let us correct it via Forscan.

Is forscan a ford product? I was under the impression that they were not. I'm sure it's just a matter of time on forscan being able to control that. Or maybe it'd be worth getting a cable to do the FDRS calibration route like the guys doing the hoss 3.0 conversions, if that's even possible. Honestly, I'm fine with the open front diff for the time being. I am fine waiting for Ford Performance to make the integration smooth and more plug n play than it is now. That said, if there isn't an easy way to get it paired with the computer and the hero switches, I have no issue wiring it to an aux switch. I still have aux 4 and 5 open.

As far as the hero switches, I like the integration personally, just from a finishing standpoint. I'm not doing mud bog stuff, so the wheel speed when I figure on using the locker would be low for the rocks out here in southern california. I honestly do think I really need the locker for most of what I do. But I do want to go to the Rubicon next year and I want to have every advantage working for me, locker, beefy steering, have a winch already, spares (front axles, tie rods, stuff like that).

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[kodiakisland]

Who is selling the axle? I haven’t seen an available yet.

 

[Leesnell91]

Who is selling the axle? I haven’t seen an available yet.

BroncBuster website has all the newest stuff listed.

 

[Just_Jim]

Who is selling the axle? I haven’t seen an available yet.

CJ Pony Parts had the best price back when I bought mine.


Forscan is a Russian guy's hex code editing software.

 

[kodiakisland]

CJ Pony Parts had the best price back when I bought mine.


Forscan is a Russian guy's hex code editing software.

What I saw on that site appears to be the stock M210 and not the upgraded D44.

 

[Just_Jim]

What I saw on that site appears to be the stock M210 and not the upgraded D44.

Right. I don't need that. I just converted a non-SAS 3.73 open diff BB to F&R locked 4.70's.

 

[Johnny Rebel]

Right. I don't need that. I just converted a non-SAS 3.73 open diff BB to F&R locked 4.70's.

Did you do a write up on the swap? If not, got any good advice or shortcuts? I’m in the same boat and really want the lockers on my BB.

 

[Leesnell91]

Did you do a write up on the swap? If not, got any good advice or shortcuts? I’m in the same boat and really want the lockers on my BB.

Does your front drive unit have a FDU solenoid?

 

[Johnny Rebel]

Does your front drive unit have a FDU solenoid?

It does.

 

[zuke]

Who is selling the axle? I haven’t seen an available yet.

The Upgrade axle is from Dana Aftermarket, Not from Ford Performance. Even if Ford Performance does start selling it, it will just be a rebadged Dana. Currently the only place that has them is BroncBuster. Texas Complete Bronco has them on their website, but doesn't have any to sell...

https://spicerparts.com/videos/ultimate-dana-44-advantek-front-drive-unit-axles-for-bronco

 

[Just_Jim]

The Upgrade axle is from Dana Aftermarket, Not from Ford Performance. Even if Ford Performance does start selling it, it will just be a rebadged Dana. Currently the only place that has them is BroncBuster. Texas Complete Bronco has them on their website, but doesn't have any to sell...

https://spicerparts.com/videos/ultimate-dana-44-advantek-front-drive-unit-axles-for-bronco

Just as the original is a Dana Advantek axle.

The upgrades are crazy priced IMO. I can replace a lot of CV joints for the $2650 they're asking for the improved versions.

I get it though. I'm just not their customer, and there's nothing wrong with that.

 

[Just_Jim]

Did you do a write up on the swap? If not, got any good advice or shortcuts? I’m in the same boat and really want the lockers on my BB.

I posted it somewhere around here. lol

Other than wiring the lockers, and the yet-to-be-resolved FDU delete issue, it's 4 bolts. Be sure to install the drive shaft before you bolt the diff in place or it won't clear the mounting cup - at least mine wouldn't.

Locker wiring is trivial; 12v negative ground. I used an ohm meter to verify the polarity on the plugs, then made my own pigtails to run up into the cab.

Jeeps use 4-prong connectors with a "engaged" feedback circuit, Broncos are just 2-wire.

These are the connectors I used:

Molex Black 2 Pin Male and Female... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HQMH35T?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

This is the wire. It's a nice heavy jacket:

LuSumtly Electrical Wire, 16... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09V55Q3SY?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

The switches:

FRONT DIFF LOCK - Blue - Switch... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H421TLB?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

REAR DIFF LOCK - Blue - Switch... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H431FQ3?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

And the video:

 

[Brnzbronc]

Looks like after reading BroncBusters website Dana is release the diffs in 2 phases, if you already a front dif with a non front disconnect it will pop right in the second phase they will release the front difs for those with Front disconnects. They have a list on one of the pictures. So I would say by next summer they will have plug and play for us M190 owners

 

[Johnny Rebel]

I posted it somewhere around here. lol

Other than wiring the lockers, and the yet-to-be-resolved FDU delete issue, it's 4 bolts. Be sure to install the drive shaft before you bolt the diff in place or it won't clear the mounting cup - at least mine wouldn't.

Locker wiring is trivial; 12v negative ground. I used an ohm meter to verify the polarity on the plugs, then made my own pigtails to run up into the cab.

Jeeps use 4-prong connectors with a "engaged" feedback circuit, Broncos are just 2-wire.

These are the connectors I used:

Molex Black 2 Pin Male and Female... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HQMH35T?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

This is the wire. It's a nice heavy jacket:

LuSumtly Electrical Wire, 16... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09V55Q3SY?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

The switches:

FRONT DIFF LOCK - Blue - Switch... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H421TLB?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

REAR DIFF LOCK - Blue - Switch... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H431FQ3?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

And the video:

Great info! Thank you, sir.

In the video, is the overhead switch used to “arm” the locker switches? I could definitely see myself accidentally bumping the rocker switches on the center console and not realize the lockers were engaged.

When I get around to upgrading mine, I’ll wire them up to a couple of open SwitchPro buttons. Never dreamed I’d need more than 6 upfitter switches…. Lol!

 

[‘21OBX]

They just dropped the news this week that the pro cal from ford performance now has the ability to support the fad delete. I seen it on lethal performance website.

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