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Does anyone have a spec sheet that shows F/R gear ratios, diff choices, etc. for each trim? Curious to know if the Badlands uses the same Sasquatch front diff when you have the 4.7 rear locker.
All Badlands have the M210 locking front diff, sasquatch or non. 4.7:1 gearing in a non-Sas would need to be a manual transmission IIRC. That's what I have sitting on DirtMtn...
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I'm most curious to find out if they still have the welded ring gear on these units. As-is, there are limitations on what you can slap in there.

@Rocketeer Rick had a much better and technical understanding of what would be needed/required, i'm still on the uphill slope of having to learn/remember the details on this.
None of the locking diffs have welded ring gears. All non locking diffs have the welded ring gear.
 

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All Badlands have the M210 locking front diff, sasquatch or non. 4.7:1 gearing in a non-Sas would need to be a manual transmission IIRC. That's what I have sitting on DirtMtn...
Yeah, I remember seeing the gear ratios for the rear locker change automatically when switching between 7MT and 10spd options, but didn't recall if it was displaying the front ratios as well. A non-squatch Badlands with the 7MT should be 4.7:1 all around then?
 

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Yeah, I remember seeing the gear ratios for the rear locker change automatically when switching between 7MT and 10spd options, but didn't recall if it was displaying the front ratios as well. A non-squatch Badlands with the 7MT should be 4.7:1 all around then?
yup your not gonna have mismatched F/R gearing.
 

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and when they are done upgrading they will hate themselves for not ordering from the factory to begin with.

It only makes sense to upgrade to 5.13 and 5.38 as it did not come from the factory with these gear choices
Not true. If I buy a Black Diamond because that’s what I want with the 4.46 gearing and I want a front diff lock then this is perfect. I’m sure it can be setup for less than $6000 so that’s good. Not everybody wants or needs to run the biggest tire for technical rock crawling.
 

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I never said one needs big tires for technical rock crawling.

Not true. If I buy a Black Diamond because that’s what I want with the 4.46 gearing and I want a front diff lock then this is perfect. I’m sure it can be setup for less than $6000 so that’s good. Not everybody wants or needs to run the biggest tire for technical rock crawling.
 
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We saw this in the Ford performance listings some time ago, but a good refresh. Of note to some (me included) this set up is not available for the 4.27 ratio :(
 

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Wow!

That's actually really cool that they offer it after market. The guys ordering base and lower trims without Sasquatch have a LOT of upgrade paths now.
Yes. But imagine the total cost. 1800 bucks plus an install. Per axle. No warranty offered. Might as well Squatch it.
 

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Yes. But imagine the total cost. 1800 bucks plus an install. Per axle. No warranty offered. Might as well Squatch it.
Yeah, but you can find Ford Performance stuff heavily discounted at other vendors. I got my ARB compressor for much less than Ford was offering (for example), and the Ford Performance tune for my Ranger was about half the price at a local shop.
 

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Not true. If I buy a Black Diamond because that’s what I want with the 4.46 gearing and I want a front diff lock then this is perfect. I’m sure it can be setup for less than $6000 so that’s good. Not everybody wants or needs to run the biggest tire for technical rock crawling.
This. I don’t like the Badlands grille or signature lights. I definitely don’t want Sasquatch in winter. If I find the front locker is needed I can install myself. Wiring is easy if you don’t care about integration with the GOAT modes. I don’t.
 

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This. I don’t like the Badlands grille or signature lights. I definitely don’t want Sasquatch in winter. If I find the front locker is needed I can install myself. Wiring is easy if you don’t care about integration with the GOAT modes. I don’t.
This is great! I assume no one has seen a video of a hero switch being added? Just replace the whole assembly with a new one containing the extra switch?
 

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This is great! I assume no one has seen a video of a hero switch being added? Just replace the whole assembly with a new one containing the extra switch?
I am not sure if you can do a hero switch but normally an e-locker just needs 12 volts to engage so any 12 volt switched power will do.
 

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We saw this in the Ford performance listings some time ago, but a good refresh. Of note to some (me included) this set up is not available for the 4.27 ratio :(
I would rather have a Torsen that bolted in the M190, it would solve the vast majority of what I would want/need without having to go to the M210. If you need the M210, then you should definitely consider the Sasquatch or the Badlands. As others have said, it's a great bang for the buck.
 

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Not true. If I buy a Black Diamond because that’s what I want with the 4.46 gearing and I want a front diff lock then this is perfect. I’m sure it can be setup for less than $6000 so that’s good. Not everybody wants or needs to run the biggest tire for technical rock crawling.
Exactly. I'd like the locking diff and keep the smaller tires.
 
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