Mach-E driver's panicked search stops four times on 200-mile trip looking for charging station

[markregel]

This does not make a Bronco EV look realistic for years to come, how long will it take for a nationwide charging network to support Ford vehicles?

A man's panicked search for an electric-car charging station between Boston and New York reveals one of Tesla's biggest advantages over its rivals

Electric vehicles are best suited when you can remain within their range with plenty of reserve. Even when charging stations become more available, imagine the lines when it requires an hour or more to change?

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[Panaran]

Is it possible to just make adapters to fit Tesla? I just have converter plugs for everytime I travel to Europe, I would assume the same is possible for the Tesla connections.

 

[MDbeachguy]

You can't look at the climatic history of the Earth and use it to compare against human's ability to survive it. What you are describing is a climatic process that occurs over millions of years. Humans have existed for ~200,000 and you are looking at a "hothouse" climate that this planet hasn't experienced in the last 34 million years and saying "yeah we'll be fine. This happens all the time". Earth goes through natural climate change, but what we are experiencing is at an accelerated rate way beyond the Earth's natural cycle. When climate change occurs over millions of years evolution allows for species to adapt and thrive in whatever the climate may be, but if it occurs over the coarse of a few centuries you get mass extinction (which we are currently experiencing). Earth will survive, some animal and plant species will survive, humans might even survive, but with the direction we are headed you're looking at massive extinction events, dead oceans, unsustainable agriculture practices, wet-bulb climates making much of the earth uninhabitable, freshwater scarcity, mass migration and all the conflict that comes with resource scarcity. Even if human's adapt and survive it, it will still be untold suffering for billions that could have been avoided.

no

a massive extinction event is not coming. you are being gaslit

human beings have extremely simple technologies that keep them alive in the hottest of weather and the coldest of weather. We have mastered the techniques of survival regardless of climate. We are not going anywhere despite what is being shoved down your throat by the green lobby which is now larger than the oil lobby.

We will be fine. Ocean is fine. freshwater is more abundant than ever.

Real extinction events dont occur on the scale of a few decades. they occur in the scale of a few hours/days.

could we potentially lose some species? sure. We just lost the northern white rhino because of chinese demand for rhino horn. Nobody called for an end to chinese medicine though despite its horrific effects on global wildlife.

however the idea that slight warming of the ocean will cause a catestrophic die off is simply not true. The only thing that could do that is a mass outbreak of volcanism

 

[shieldsy]

What is this thread about again?

Hypertension in a new mach-e driver?

 

[Bikeric]

Is it possible to just make adapters to fit Tesla? I just have converter plugs for everytime I travel to Europe, I would assume the same is possible for the Tesla connections.

No. A Tesla car comes with adapters for the charging cable that allows it to be charged anywhere from a Nissan or Ford dealer or a wall outlet. The Tesla charging stations Cannott Willnot charge any vehicle besides a Tesla. Tesla put in the infrastructure with the initial owners. My wife had a 2013 Model S and we paid $2,500 extra for lifetime Free super-chaging. Elon used those funds to build the charging stations across the country.

All that being said, an electric vehicle is not something you want to travel cross country with. The F150 Lightning and Mach-E's should be considered for local use only within a 100 mile radius (or less) of your home.

 

[rdass623]

ford should have never associated this with a mustang, next thing that will happen is they will make a 4 door bronco....

 

[calcutta]

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All that being said, an electric vehicle is not something you want to travel cross country with. The F150 Lightning and Mach-E's should be considered for local use only within a 100 mile radius (or less) of your home.
All that being said, an electric vehicle is not something you want to travel cross country with. The F150 Lightning and Mach-E's should be considered for local use only within a 100 mile radius (or less) of your home.

We’ve made a few 500 mile daytrips (Vegas or PHX) with no stress and little hassle We thought about taking it cross country this Summer but we like to do 700-800 miles a day and that crosses into the less fun / way more planning required stage of things.

Ford seems to be super conservative with their range ratings fwiw. Ours is EPA 305 but has been as high as 340-360 miles with an average miles per kwH of 3.8 (after 4k miles).

 

[Bikeric]

We’ve made a few 500 mile daytrips (Vegas or PHX) with no stress and little hassle We thought about taking it cross country this Summer but we like to do 700-800 miles a day and that crosses into the less fun / way more planning required stage of things.

Ford seems to be super conservative with their range ratings fwiw. Ours is EPA 305 but has been as high as 340-360 miles with an average miles per kwH of 3.8 (after 4k miles).

Where can you charge up at? How much does it cost? Time to get a full charge or miles/hour charge rate? Legit curious as I only have experience with Tesla's.

 

[Raptor911]

They do make tesla adpators. You just can't use them at a tesla supercharger location. you can use them at home. For example your neighbor has a tesla charger at home and you can use it to charge your mach-e using the adapter.

Is it possible to just make adapters to fit Tesla? I just have converter plugs for everytime I travel to Europe, I would assume the same is possible for the Tesla connections.

 

[calcutta]

Where can you charge up at? How much does it cost? Time to get a full charge or miles/hour charge rate? Legit curious as I only have experience with Tesla's.

In both Vegas and Scottsdale we used EVGo 50 kW chargers - we’ve tried EA a couple of times but they just don’t seem as reliable. There’s numerous EVGo ones near the strip but last time we used the one close to Excalibur. The battery charge logs in Ford pass don’t go back far enough to see but I believe we charged around 125 miles in the morning (60 mins) and then another 100 miles later in the day (< 60 mins). Evgo is around $0.30 / kwh.

 

[NotApplicable]

When batteries have 1 million mile charge cycles, AND have 700-1000 mile range

So you want a battery lifespan of 1 billion miles? The average ICE vehicle lasts under 150k miles. At 150 mi range, that’s 1000 charge cycles. At 300, it’s 500. Battery lifespan in new EVs in 2021 already far exceeds what’s necessary to eclipse ICE vehicles in terms of miles in service.

 

[MDbeachguy]

So you want a battery lifespan of 1 billion miles? The average ICE vehicle lasts under 150k miles. At 150 mi range, that’s 1000 charge cycles. At 300, it’s 500. Battery lifespan in new EVs in 2021 already far exceeds what’s necessary to eclipse ICE vehicles in terms of miles in service.

no where did i write 1 billion

 

[Username_not_found]

no

a massive extinction event is not coming. you are being gaslit

human beings have extremely simple technologies that keep them alive in the hottest of weather and the coldest of weather. We have mastered the techniques of survival regardless of climate. We are not going anywhere despite what is being shoved down your throat by the green lobby which is now larger than the oil lobby.

We will be fine. Ocean is fine. freshwater is more abundant than ever.

Real extinction events dont occur on the scale of a few decades. they occur in the scale of a few hours/days.

could we potentially lose some species? sure. We just lost the northern white rhino because of chinese demand for rhino horn. Nobody called for an end to chinese medicine though despite its horrific effects on global wildlife.

however the idea that slight warming of the ocean will cause a catestrophic die off is simply not true. The only thing that could do that is a mass outbreak of volcanism

We are already experiencing climate conditions too hot to survive
https://research.noaa.gov/article/A...at-extremes-occurring-decades-before-expected

Much of these parts of the world do not have access to these "simple technologies to keep them alive". So what choice will they have when it becomes unlivable, but to find somewhere cooler? So hooray mass migration and refugee's we have not previously seen.

"Ocean is fine":
https://www3.epa.gov/region1/npdes/schillerstation/pdfs/AR-024.pdf
https://www.noaa.gov/education/resource-collections/ocean-coasts/ocean-acidification
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...g-out-of-fish-despite-nations-pledges-to-stop

"Freshwater is more abundant than ever"
https://www.worldwildlife.org/threats/water-scarcity
https://www.unwater.org/water-facts/scarcity/
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/partner-content-americas-looming-water-crisis

"Real extinction events dont occur on the scale of a few decades. they occur in the scale of a few hours/days."
Mass extinction events occur over the course of thousands of years at least.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/how-long-mass-extinction-180949711/

"could we potentially lose some species? sure."
467 Animal species have been declared extinct in the last decade.
https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2019/12/9/20993619/biodiversity-crisis-extinction
https://www.washington.edu/news/2020/11/24/plant-extinction/

"Nobody called for an end to chinese medicine though despite its horrific effects on global wildlife."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-46190599
https://undocs.org/en/A/RES/69/314
https://eia-international.org/news/...which-violates-international-wildlife-treaty/

"however the idea that slight warming of the ocean will cause a catestrophic die off is simply not true."
Well since some random on a car forum says it's untrue it must be.
https://earth.stanford.edu/news/science-behind-extinction#gs.7olw70
https://climate.nasa.gov/effects/
https://www.statista.com/chart/22845/decline-in-monitored-vertebrate-species-populations/

 

[NotApplicable]

no where did i write 1 billion

Ah never mind I missed the “mile” in your sentence “1 million mile charge cycles”.

Why do EV batteries need to last longer by an order of magnitude to compete with ICE?

Current EV batteries are expected to retain >80% of their full charge capacity after 1500+ charge cycles, which means the batteries should last far longer than the average ICE vehicle by mileage today.

 

[Blksn955.o]

I am on board with electric but I am waiting on at least two things.

1. Getting solar installed at my house and some storage capacity as well but those storage capacities are a little lacking imho...you pay what seems like 25-50% of a new electric car battery and only get like 5-10% the storage.

2. That leads me to my second thing. I am wanting either solid state batteries or at least something better to get like a model 3 performance that can also get 330+ miles on a charge.

I have no intentions of going electric if I can't run it off the electric I can generate. Or at least the majority of it. I would need a weeks worth of charge plus or minus a little that I could charge over a weekend.

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