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Awesome! Looking like I'll want some rocker armor for my BL, those looked weak.
Where are you seeing this? I've watched the video a few times and haven't seen any flexing.





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I will just place this here in case someone is confused about IFS and SFA articulation, IFS will ALWAYS "hang" a tire.

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You can get a long travel IFS suspension, but you are going to pay dearly for it.
 

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You can get a long travel IFS suspension, but you are going to pay dearly for it.

Even those have their limits when compared to SFA. Length of control arm is the limiting factor.

IFS only articulates on the ends not the whole axle acting as a lever. here is a little pic I had posted in other threads to get my meaning across.

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Even those have their limits when compared to SFA. Length of control arm is the limiting factor.

IFS only articulates on the ends not the whole axle acting as a lever. here is a little pic I had posted in other threads to get my meaning across.

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Sure, there are limits to everything, but money helps a lot when overcoming most issues. A proper long travel IFS is expensive and is still limited. Track width has to be increased quite a bit due to longer control arms, as well as a lot other stuff. It can be done, but at an expense that is not worth it for most.
 

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Where are you seeing this? I've watched the video a few times and haven't seen any flexing.
At the 1:05 mark. You can see the door dented/scratched and the rocker guard (or whatever Ford calls them to protect under the doors) is bent, at least that what it looks like. Check out Poison Spyder rocker armor, you'll see the difference. I hope to have new armor in the garage before the Bronco shows up!

If anyone is selling basher fenders I'm all in. How cool will it be to remove or swap fenders when you know you're going to have some fun with it?! Otherwise you have to armor up every panel and that's not what I'm going for.
 

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Even those have their limits when compared to SFA. Length of control arm is the limiting factor.

IFS only articulates on the ends not the whole axle acting as a lever. here is a little pic I had posted in other threads to get my meaning across.

axle travel.jpg
Ok, are there any benefits to IFS when crawling or in the rocks? I'm stretching here, but maybe if you have a single front tire with more pressure and flatter angle that it could grab better than two tires at a higher angle and less pressure? I know I just contradicted years of wheeling knowledge, the higher ground pressure has to count for something.
 

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At the 1:05 mark. You can see the door dented/scratched and the rocker guard (or whatever Ford calls them to protect under the doors) is bent, at least that what it looks like.
The rock rail is fine, just scuffed (it's what happens) & just put some diamond plate on the lower part of the door & it should be fine.
 

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Its a great overall rig. It may not have the crazy flex of some solid axle rigs, but it looks like it made it through. It can also hit the trails at speed without a crazy death wobble :) or even track straight down the road and hit a pothole without the death wobble...
 

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Ok, are there any benefits to IFS when crawling or in the rocks? I'm stretching here, but maybe if you have a single front tire with more pressure and flatter angle that it could grab better than two tires at a higher angle and less pressure? I know I just contradicted years of wheeling knowledge, the higher ground pressure has to count for something.

A lot of techno stuff in that conversation but in general yea IFS maintains a better contact pacth from side to side through out articulation but for the most part SFA, RULES on the rocks. Much more side to side articulation even if the IFS is a long travel.
 

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Is that not the one pedal that does both? I thought that was only available in auto
Yes, THAT is correct. One pedal is available on the 2.7 and auto. Maybe we're talking about 2 different things.
I was talking about how it (almost) didn't rollback in the video.
I guess on road going cars with manual, they'd call it hill start assist..?
 

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Yes, THAT is correct. One pedal is available on the 2.7 and auto. Maybe we're talking about 2 different things.
I was talking about how it (almost) didn't rollback in the video.
I guess on road going cars with manual, they'd call it hill start assist..?
Yes I was confused I thought it was the same thing.
 

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