That'll showum!I think the first thing coming off my bronco is the Ford emblem.
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That'll showum!I think the first thing coming off my bronco is the Ford emblem.
It seems that Ford is doing everything they can to keep from delivering their popular Bronco's.In case anyone's been waiting for an answer:
@mrlevine Fill your Bronco reservation orders ahead of allocations. We’ve already waited 15 months. Stop punishing your customers. #reservationsoverallocations
His answer tells me they just don't care.
in case he deletes his tweet, here's what it says:
Mike Levine
Replying to @robtraut and @KogodBiz
That’s exactly the plan for more than 98% of customers that didn’t place orders with a small dealer that created a special deal to attract a large number of orders.
I see you are from Michigan. Interesting.Everyone claims they are with these dealers because of their "no BS", but I'd be willing to place a pretty large bet that most of the orders through them were placed because they were offered a lower price. That's it, end of story, they are a business and they are trying to make money. Now they may have treated you all really well so far and that's great, but they are just trying to be a successful business at the end of the day.
This is the part that irks me the most.We were told that reservations/orders would be built before dealer stock at day 1. Build the build able reservations/orders before you build a single dealer stock order. Keep sucking off the big dealers @Ford Motor Company, it is leading you down the road to the past, not the future...
Agree, but there was a different allocation formula out when they offered these deals. The whole reason they offered them was to boost their 2022 bronco allocation then ford changed it all.I mentioned this in a thread the other day, but I don't see anyone else talking about how the Grangers/Chapman/SAC should of really been telling their customers that there was risk in signing up with them. They've been around for a long time and understand how the dealer systems work so there is no way that they didn't think there was risk with this.
The old saying "It seems to good to be true" holds pretty strongly here, like how did everyone that ordered with these dealers think that they would get their vehicles quickly and that there was no risk. Even if they kept the old allocation model for this year (which they never said they would when they released lasts years) there would probably still be lots of people waiting because they line is so long.
Everyone keeps saying that these dealers have been the only ones being 100% honest with them, yet I don't think the dealers have been informing their customers that their sales technique probably had a lot of risk in it.
I know some people will jump in here and say that this process is new so there is no way they could of known, but that's just false, these dealers took a risk offering these massive sales so that they could sell a shit ton of vehicles in the name of "being fair to the customer".
Does it suck for all of the customers at these dealers, absolutely. Am I supporting Ford in how they are handling it, no. Does it suck that these dealers sales technique didn't pay off, yeah, but high risk comes with high reward. I just don't see how so many people didn't see this coming.
everyone "can't" be first - you are correct... but, when people have been waiting forever (order dates/blend dates from April through August, and then you see others who have ordered in September and already have their Broncos, what should one expect? Thus, it isn't about mfg or logistics -- if they can make some Broncos. I saw my exact build many times in these forums and the individuals ordered and had their blend dates way after my date, and they are driving them... why not just fix the problems with the broncos that have been in the abyss of production and sitting on doo-doo mountain, and then work on fulfilling orders of those who just ordered and dealer stock. So, I have been "built" since 8/6 (no recall on the airbag) and I have a soft top, black diamond 4dr... where the f*ck is my car?My Ford stock doubled. They simply can’t make cars fast enough. It’s not just the auto makers but there are many mfg and logistic issued globally. Everyone cant be 1st.
Dude, I'm giving up on you as you will never get it. I don't know if you work for Ford, own a big dealership, or just live in your parents basement but I done. Good luck, I hope you get your Bronco soon without getting screwed.Ok, so if I’m a big dealer, how is it ok for me to get penalized on my earned allocation because smaller dealers that outsold their fair share have to get their reservations first? No f’ing way I’d be ok with that.
Any way you look at it, someone is getting burnt.
In regards to reservations getting built first, they are still doing that. Granger won’t be getting stock units intil their reservations are filled.
I’m sorry, but Granger knew they would never be able to fill these reservations on time. And there is NO WAY they could expect to get preferential treatment over an established allocation system. They had to know this.
I feel for the reservation holders, but they had to know this would happen.
So the 300zx had over 200,000 reservations? I am sure this is apples to apples.I remember when the new 300ZX came out. The owner of our dealership was honest so we never marked up over MSRP. There were dealers that were discounting them and they were allocated by a similar formula. I would tell customers that wanted a discount that I could sell them one for a dollar because they would never see it. I would sell them one at list and actually knew it would be delivered. The system was well known but there were dealers that would take orders with zero guarantee they could ever deliver. It was called " taking them out of the market". They would hope that they could find extra allocation at some point and have the cars sold in advance. Nothing has changed. Been there, done that.
Ah, so Nissan created an ad campaign to officially launch the vehicle that featured a reservation system. Hyped it to the moon on a first come, first served bases. the absolute backbone of the launch, a plan so clear that people crashed the system because they understood they could be first in line? Then Nissan additionally told people that all the 300Zx cars reserved (that NIssan kept accepting until there were almost 2 years worth of possible orders), and that they would be built before anyone else got on, creating a guarantee of exclusivity?I remember when the new 300ZX came out. The owner of our dealership was honest so we never marked up over MSRP. There were dealers that were discounting them and they were allocated by a similar formula. I would tell customers that wanted a discount that I could sell them one for a dollar because they would never see it. I would sell them one at list and actually knew it would be delivered. The system was well known but there were dealers that would take orders with zero guarantee they could ever deliver. It was called " taking them out of the market". They would hope that they could find extra allocation at some point and have the cars sold in advance. Nothing has changed. Been there, done that.
Lol. I’m impressed! How did you come up with that conclusion after 40 pages of not a single person saying that?My Ford stock doubled. They simply can’t make cars fast enough. It’s not just the auto makers but there are many mfg and logistic issued globally. Everyone cant be 1st.
You are right to give up on him, he and others are so locked in to their position, they are incapable of taking a step back to look at the principle of the thing. Perhaps it takes a man (or woman) of honor to understand why not having any is so offensive.Dude, I'm giving up on you as you will never get it. I don't know if you work for Ford, own a big dealership, or just live in your parents basement but I done. Good luck, I hope you get your Bronco soon without getting screwed.