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Hey guys!

Nick here from Mishimoto! We're beyond excited to kick off our development thread for our baffled oil catch can kit for the 2.7L Broncos! Huge shoutout to @schlava for loaning us his gorgeous Outer Banks Bronco so we could start with some hands-on R&D while our Broncos are still in production.


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We're no strangers to the EcoBoost here at Mishimoto, and are stoked to apply everything we've learned from all of the other applications to Ford's newest 2.7L EB powerplant. The addition of dual injection on these engines does, in theory, make them less susceptible to the dangers of blow-by, but from our experience through the years with a wide array of different engines and fueling methods, well:

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We'll have plenty more info to come VERY soon! Make sure that you stay tuned for more info on our upcoming catch can kit!

As always, don't hesitate to reach out with any questions that you might have!

-Nick
Looking forward to your catch-can kit.

Also, while your at it, how about getting some early measuring for an aftermarket inter-cooler and inter-cooler relocation kit. ;) 😁
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Hey guys!

Nick here from Mishimoto! We're beyond excited to kick off our development thread for our baffled oil catch can kit for the 2.7L Broncos! Huge shoutout to @schlava for loaning us his gorgeous Outer Banks Bronco so we could start with some hands-on R&D while our Broncos are still in production.


P1266537-scaled.jpg


We're no strangers to the EcoBoost here at Mishimoto, and are stoked to apply everything we've learned from all of the other applications to Ford's newest 2.7L EB powerplant. The addition of dual injection on these engines does, in theory, make them less susceptible to the dangers of blow-by, but from our experience through the years with a wide array of different engines and fueling methods, well:

5nvln6.jpeg


We'll have plenty more info to come VERY soon! Make sure that you stay tuned for more info on our upcoming catch can kit!

As always, don't hesitate to reach out with any questions that you might have!

-Nick
will you have a kit for the 2.3L as well?
 

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Looks great . Hope the test run goes good. Will we need to change anything in the ECU if we get the catch can? Off Topic does your engineering team think a air compressor can fit under the hood of the 2.7 bronco?
 

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@Mishimoto I had considered buying the 2.7L kit for the F150. Would that kit not work on the Bronco?
 

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I'm a firm believer in catch cans, and will definitely get one for my 2.7L Bronco. Even without the fear of carbon build up on the valves, the idea of the several quarts of oil being sucked through the intake over the years is a huge turn off. I have one on my normally aspirated Jeep and dump 1/2 quart of oil or so every oil change from my can. I believe it is well the worth the cost. Given the additional crank case pressure of a turbo charged engine, I think its a must.
 

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Just bumping this up as a reminder to scroll back and check out the latest blog link!

-Nick
Will this be available for the 2.3L as well?
 

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That is why there is no need for the catch can anymore...
I think the 2.3 is single turbo and single injector per cylinder, while the 2.7 has the dual injectors per cylinder to prevent carbon deposit?

My 2016 F150 has the 2.7, and the dealer does an injector cleaning for $300+- every 50,000 miles. It seems like this item would be good for the 2.3 especially?!
 

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Hey guys!

Nick here from Mishimoto! We're beyond excited to kick off our development thread for our baffled oil catch can kit for the 2.7L Broncos! Huge shoutout to @schlava for loaning us his gorgeous Outer Banks Bronco so we could start with some hands-on R&D while our Broncos are still in production.


Ford Bronco Mishimoto's Bronco 2.7 Catch Can R&D Thread NLT_6183-scaled


We're no strangers to the EcoBoost here at Mishimoto, and are stoked to apply everything we've learned from all of the other applications to Ford's newest 2.7L EB powerplant. The addition of dual injection on these engines does, in theory, make them less susceptible to the dangers of blow-by, but from our experience through the years with a wide array of different engines and fueling methods, well:

Ford Bronco Mishimoto's Bronco 2.7 Catch Can R&D Thread NLT_6183-scaled


We'll have plenty more info to come VERY soon! Make sure that you stay tuned for more info on our upcoming catch can kit!

As always, don't hesitate to reach out with any questions that you might have!

-Nick
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You guys make some great quality mods and I look forward to what you come out with for the Bronco, however this is just a moderately expensive solution looking for a problem.

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I have to disagree here. First off I have a can/box in both my sports cars, one turbo and the other is a NA non-direct inject.
You would not believe the gunk that come out of the can on the turbo car. The NA car only catches a small amount of oil.

You definitely don't want ANY of what I catch running back into your intake system. Why would you? Are you forgetting about the performance benefits of not retarding the timing due to detonation? Or limiting the possibilities from engine damage from detonation?

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Engine Detonation

Definition & Description
Detonation is spontaneous combustion inside the cylinder AFTER the spark plug fires. It is similar to Pre-Ignition, but it is different.
During normal ignition, the spark plug fires just before the piston reaches TDC. The flame travels across the combustion chamber igniting the Air/Fuel Mixture. This causes a steady increase in cylinder pressure and forces the piston down on the Power Stroke.
When detonation happens, some of the air/fuel ignites before the normal burn can get to it. This causes a brief, but intense, spike in cylinder pressure.
Detonation is also called an "Engine Knock", "Knocking", or "Pinging" because of the sound it makes.
How is it indicated?
  • Knocking or pinging sound
  • Drop in Exhaust Gas Temperature (EGT)
  • Broken piston rings and/or spark plugs
  • Damage to the piston and/or valves
What causes it?
Detonation can be caused by several factors. A few common causes are:
Over-Advanced Ignition Timing
If Ignition Timing is too far advanced, the spark plug fires too soon. This causes the flame to end early. The remaining fuel can detonate.
Lean Air/Fuel Mixture
A rich Air/Fuel Mixture runs cooler than a lean mixture. A lean mixture can get too hot and detonate.
Too Much Compression
Compression causes heat. If the air/fuel mixture is compressed too much, it can detonate.
Engine Overheating
Low coolant or a bad water pump can cause the engine to overheat. Too much heat can cause the air/fuel in the chamber to detonate.
Low Octane Fuel
Octane Rating is a measure of "knock resistance". Switching to higher grade fuel can help a knocking engine.
How does it affect performance?
An engine is designed to work in a specific way. Because detonation interrupts that design, it robs the engine of power.
Most engines can handle some minor detonation. Modern, fuel injected engines can sense a knock and adjust the Air/Fuel Ratioand Ignition Timing. However, if the detonation is not fixed, it will damage the engine. Just one major detonation event could cause significant damage.
 

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I have Mishimoto catch can on my Camaro SS. Definitely needed.
Every month I found milky oil inside of it (water vapor + oil)

However, not entirely sure 2.7 dual injection needed a catch can.
I use 93 fuel. Carbon build up won't be an issue for me.
It might prevent moisture but... I'm lazy. Not looking forward to service two cars.
 

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Ran 2 JLT "barf" cans on my 5.0 coyote pro-charged V-8. Passenger side will always have more "blow by" than driver side. Rather toss old residue than run through engine. Will buy for 2.7.
 

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Since Ford addressed it by adding port injection on the 2nd gen 2.7 EcoBoost engines. Fuel washing over the intake valves ensures excessive carbon build-up doesn’t occur. The 2.7 is no longer Direct injection....
That is why there is no need for the catch can anymore...
I remember a current Ford mechanic on this forum mentioned on one of the threads that the best mod you can do for you new bronco was a catch can.
 
 


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