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Im hoping the they will use the HD version of the 7 speed with 590lb ft capacity will be used in whatever the toughest bronco is called.



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When I was truck shopping 2 years ago, I was looking at the Ram 3/4 tons for the sole reason that they offered a stick shift. Looking at the dealership websites, I only found 2 manuals on the lots in the entire state of AZ. Neither was close to a configuration I wanted. I settled on an automatic because I found a "used" one with only 3,000 miles for about 15k under a normal new price and it was everything I was looking for in a work/family truck. Still, wish I could have found my exact truck but with a third pedal.

Last night I was bored and decided to look at the Wranglers and Gladiators to see what's out there. Very similar situation. I found only 1 gladiator stick shift out of around 150 and about 5 Wrangler stick shifts out of hundreds while looking at a few of the biggest dealers in Phoenix. They were all Rubicons approaching $60k.
I keep hearing the same story from auto manufacturers.... "We are killing the manual because they don't sell." My experience is I want a manual but can't find them in a configuration I want so I settled for an auto. Are the few manual versions they make simply selling quickly or are they only making a fraction of a percent of them into a stick? With the Jeeps and Rams, well over 99% of the ones on lots are autos.

Back to the point of this thread. Am I even going to be able to find a stick shift bronco sitting on a lot? I'm sure I can order one custom, but I'd sure like to test drive one first, feel how it shifts before I spend that kind of money...
Just order one. When the dealer pays 6.5% interest per day per unit after FPA is used up and manuals are a fraction of what you stock, as a dealer, you aren’t going to eat up floor plan and eat up profit by having a bunch of vehicles eating hay for 140+ days while you wait for two out of 100 buyers to come along and tell you that it’s the wrong color or wrong option set so they’re not interested. You end up giving the vehicle away and being annoyed with the fact that you tried to offer what you thought someone would want.

This is why you don’t see as many manuals.
 

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Im hoping the they will use the HD version of the 7 speed with 590lb ft capacity will be used in whatever the toughest bronco is called.
What does that (PC) mean in the transmission code?
 

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Im hoping the they will use the HD version of the 7 speed with 590lb ft capacity will be used in whatever the toughest bronco is called.
That’s a trans meant for Medium Duty application, ie Hino, Freightliner, International, Pete - class 6&7 trucks. The input shaft would be too large and the bell housing too large to mount to anything light duty.
 

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That’s a trans meant for Medium Duty application, ie Hino, Freightliner, International, Pete - class 6&7 trucks. The input shaft would be too large and the bell housing too large to mount to anything light duty.
So what your saying is that were getting the godzilla swap as a Ford Racing Kit?!!!!
 

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On cars dot com There are 100 New wrangler unlimited manuals for sale within 150 miles of me and 3200 automatics, so about 3%. Im not expecting a lot of Bronco manuals but I have no problem traveling to buy one. They will be more rare and probably always be in demand on used market as well for enthusiasts like myself that must have manual.
 

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Totally different manual transmission for JL/JT. They went from the NSG370 to the Aisin D478 / AL6 which for some reason is synonymous.
Interesting - neither of which I can fine on the aisinworld website, not that there are torque specs for the ones on there. So it is a mystery.
 

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Interesting - neither of which I can fine on the aisinworld website, not that there are torque specs for the ones on there. So it is a mystery.
The old NSG370 was rated to 272lbft. The Aisin d478 is rated at 352
 

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Totally different manual transmission for JL/JT. They went from the NSG370 to the Aisin D478 / AL6 which for some reason is synonymous.
Having broken 4 Aisin 6spd's in my RX-8 with minimal power adders, I am not a fan of their light duty products.
 

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I was gonna order mine anyway, but think they'll be available on select lots
 























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