New Models/Upgrades Coming for 2022/2023 says Levine

[Bronco cat]

I'm a low cost base customer (30k). If Ford bumps the base cost up too much for MY22, I'm out. Please Ford hold the line.

But if I were Ford, I'd consider offering more upscale options, and maybe even upscale versions. Because looking at what some people are paying for their Broncos, dropping 50k or more seems no big deal. Ford is leaving money on the table.

I'd offer fully tricked out versions, with cooled seats and all that jazz, aiming for the 55k and up crowd.

Mine is a non fe obx and it’s already pushing 60…….. aim higher

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[mpeugeot]

I think the marketing folks at Ford made a mess of things:
---Base, Big Bend, Black Diamond need to be consolidated into one model
---MGV + rubberization and drain plugs should be an option on most models
---OBX should be leather and and High/Lux package. It's really targeted at folks who want the creature comforts.
---Scrap the Badlands and make make the stabilizer bar disconnect an option on the Wildtrak. The technical specs of BL and Squatch are close enough.
--- The Lux package is too much extra if all you want is B&O. Allow people to add it a la carte to Mid and High packages

I know many folks will disagree with some of my individual points. Collectively, making changes like this would allow Ford to build more flexibility in their product offerings while simplifying their operations.

I generally agree with you, with some minor tweaks.

BB, OBX, and WT could have all been collapsed into the OBX trim level. Carpet and Cloth Seats should be standard with BB, OBX, and WT. Leather trimmed vinyl and MGV should be optional seats. Washout floors should be optional.

Base, BD, and BL could all have been collapsed under the BL trim level. Washout floors and MGV should be standard in Base, BD, and BL. Cloth or leather trimmed vinyl seats should be separate options for Base, BD, and BL. Carpet should be optional as well.

BL should have the lockers and swaybar disconnect standard. Squatch should include the swaybar disconnect, suspension, and lockers.

LUX package should remain available. B&O, Adaptive Cruise Control, and other driver safety software features should also be available ala carte at a slight premium over the package.

This would have collapsed 6 trims into two trim levels!!! So much easier.

 

[Bronc-O]

I know many folks will disagree with some of my individual points. Collectively, making changes like this would allow Ford to build more flexibility in their product offerings while simplifying their operations.

If Ford goes to ordering like they're proposing, that will be the end of flexibility. You'll be able to order package A, B or C and that's about all.

 

[AZ_Liberty]

I think the marketing folks at Ford made a mess of things:
---Base, Big Bend, Black Diamond need to be consolidated into one model
---MGV + rubberization and drain plugs should be an option on most models
---OBX should be leather and and High/Lux package. It's really targeted at folks who want the creature comforts.
---Scrap the Badlands and make make the stabilizer bar disconnect an option on the Wildtrak. The technical specs of BL and Squatch are close enough.
--- The Lux package is too much extra if all you want is B&O. Allow people to add it a la carte to Mid and High packages

What exactly is the difference between Base and BB other than 5 or 6 grand and you get a rear locker?

Base and BB should have been consolidated, and Black Diamond should be a "package". I like everything about the BD except for the stupid MGV seats. Complete non-starter in Arizona and 120 degrees out.

Wildtrack also should have been a "package", it's a Desert Runner Badlands with Sqatch.

OBX should have been a Lincoln. ;-)

Honestly it would have been a lot less confusing if they just built:
XL
STX
XLT
Larriat.

I'll take a 2-Door STX (best value in the lineup by far)

 

[Lakelife36]

The 4xe is a plug in hybrid though, as others have pointed out - once the battery is used up, you're back to regular ICE power. As opposed to something like the Powerboost F-150 that's using both electric and ICE to varying degrees all the time.

That is factually incorrect, as per this article, among others:
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2021-jeep-wrangler-4xe-hybrid-first-drive-review/

 

[Lakelife36]

What exactly is the difference between Base and BB other than 5 or 6 grand and you get a rear locker?

Base and BB should have been consolidated, and Black Diamond should be a "package". I like everything about the BD except for the stupid MGV seats. Complete non-starter in Arizona and 120 degrees out.

Wildtrack also should have been a "package", it's a Desert Runner Badlands with Sqatch.

OBX should have been a Lincoln. ;-)

Honestly it would have been a lot less confusing if they just built:
XL
STX
XLT
Larriat.

I'll take a 2-Door STX (best value in the lineup by far)

Dude I don't know what you're smoking but I want some. It's a $1500 (CAD) difference!

Auto makers like Base models for whatever reason, so it's not a surprise to see them. I 100% concur that BD could've been done with a package or two and an option or two on the second tier trim though. Wildtrak could have also been a package, but then people might've started asking why a V6 Badsquatch with mid costs >$6k more than the Wildtrak, which would've been inconvenient.

 

[portland_lol]

I've never understood the lack of color options. If they're not concerned with the interior colors matching any of the exterior colors, they should be offering a ton of colors. It's been done before.
1966
A Raven Black
B Caribbean Turquoise
C Pure White
D Peacock Blue
F Arcadian Blue
G Chrome Yellow
H Sahara Beige
J Rangoon Red
L Holly Green
M Wimbledon White
N Frost Turquoise
S Poppy Red
W Marlin Blue
8 Springtime Yellow
1967
A Raven Black
B Frost Turqouise
C Pure White
D Peacock Blue
G Chrome Yellow
J Rangoon Red
L Holly Green
M Wimbledon White
S Poppy Red
U Lunar Green
6 Pebble Beige
7 Harbor Blue
8 Springtime Yellow
1968
A Raven Black
B Caribbean Turquoise
C Pure White
D Peacock Blue
E Skyview Blue
F Arcadian Blue
G Chrome Yellow
J Rangoon Red
L Holly Green
M Wimbledon White
O American Blue
P Boxwood Green
R Diamond Green
T Candy Apple Red
U Lunar Green
W Meadowlark Yellow
X Marlin Blue
Z Signal Flare Red
2 Coachman Beige
3 Yucatan Gold
6 Pebble Beige
7 Harbor Blue
1969
A Raven Black
C Pure White
D Tucson Gold
E Skyview Blue
F Arcadian Blue
G Chrome Yellow
H Cordova
J Rangoon Red
K Empire
L Holly Green
M Wimbledon White
P Boxwood Green
Q Brittany Blue Poly
R Diamond Green
T Candy Apple Red
U Lunar Green
V Diamond Aqua
W Meadowlark Yellow
X Marlin Blue
Y Reef
Z Federal Red
3 Calypso Coral
4 Twilight Green Poly
6 Pebble Beige
7 Harbor Blue
1970
A Raven Black
B Royal Maroon
C Pure White
D Tucson Gold
E Skyview Blue
F Mojave Tan
G Chrome Yellow
H Cactus Green
I Lime Gold Poly
K Carmel Bronze Poly
L Holly Green
M Wimbledon White
N Norway
P Boxwood Green
Q Brittany Blue Poly
R Yucatan Gold
S Champagne Gold Poly
T Candy Apple Red
U Empire Yellow
W Tampico Yellow
Y Reef
Z Baja Beige
2 New Lime
3 Explorer Green
4 Crystal Green
5 Diamond Blue
6 Acapulco Blue Poly
7 Harbor Blue

pretty sure there are some impressive colors on this list.

it's sad when you go over the current color line hoping for one to stand out and none of them do. people prolly went over it 100x hoping for something to click

that will be the reason why green will outsell many and might be #1

 

[AZ_Liberty]

Dude I don't know what you're smoking but I want some. It's a $1500 (CAD) difference!

$1500 snowbucks is about what, $1200 in greenbacks?

In the US:
Base: $28,500
BB : $33,385

So the difference is $4885 (about 6200 CAD)

 

[Lakelife36]

Yah it's somewhere around $0.80/$1.25 these days, so 750 toonies is indeed 12 Benjamins.

So your Base is CAD $35,625 and your BB is CAD $41,730? That's about the same price as our BB (CAD $42,000) but you're getting an absolute SMOKING deal on the Base!!!

Now if you want a real headscratcher take a look at the prices for four doors up here:

Edit: Nevermind that's the auto on the Base pushing the price up. Adding the auto to the BB also puts it bang-on $1500 over the Base. Sure looks odd seeing the cheapest model cost more than the second tier though!

 

[Sighlense]

OBX should have been a Lincoln. ;-)

 

[airishfan]

this dude just keeps coming around giving out hints about this and that about the Bronco but its time to shut the fuck up and just build them and stop talking about this color and this trim and this and that because Ford can't even give us a Bronco in the trims and colors they have now .people going get a boner over the new colors then find out they be a my23 order and the new colors won't be available.

 

[NatureMan]

Powerboost.

 

[Deleted member 12876]

How about upgrading the 10 speed from 10R60 to 10R80 Ford motor company

 

[WadeWolf76]

Stay tuned...

 

[WuNgUn]

This video says Raptor at 9:40.

Braptor!!

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