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No one is suggesting they stop production, but they committed to not building any additional hard top vehicles until the ones already produced and sitting there were corrected. Ford cannot seem to follow through on any commitments to its customers.
They appear to be doing both, so why is that a problem? If they have plenty of tops and the line does not affect refit throughput who cares?
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Think it's been fairly clear for a while now that there was never a FIFY plan.
And they've also made it clear that production was continuing while DM rigs were getting tops replaced and inspected.

Are you certain this newly built Bronco actually has a 2.0 roof, or is that just an assumption based on the dates?

Honestly, I kinda feel like anyone who thought absolutely no new hard top builds were going to roll off the line until every single DM Bronco had their top replaced was just deluding themselves. Ford is going to do whatever gets the largest number of Bronco shipped out as quickly as possible.
 

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I said this was how it would be done, they may use fifo for replacing the already built ones but they're going to keep building Broncos. They will just cycle the repaired ones in as they're fixed.
 

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No one is suggesting they stop production, but they committed to not building any additional hard top vehicles until the ones already produced and sitting there were corrected. Ford cannot seem to follow through on any commitments to its customers.
That would make sense if the new top was still being produced at a low rate that made supply a limiting factor. Then building new Broncos with a hard top would delay when you get yours off DM.

But if they have enough tops to cover all the replacements and still build more - with the limiting factor being the time and process to replace tops, complete inspections, etc. - then them building more hard top rigs isn't what's holding up getting through the back log. If that's the case, why shouldn't they build more hard top Broncos?
 

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If this is anything like my own history....
1. They got MIC 2.0 done and they are being produced.
2. DM Broncos get moved to get their tops swapped and shipped.
3. The top-swap location only has so much space. That space has to allow for old tops, new tops, and the Broncos that get them swapped.
4. What if they have way more tops than they can swap in a week, and more tops are coming?

They could throw more people at it, but again, limited space. They can only have so many there before it turns into a fustercluck. I am guessing they have optimized it and still can't keep up with the number of tops being made available now, so.. why not redirect the overflow of tops to the production line and resume there at the same time? It doesn't stop DMBs getting swapped and shipped, jsut splitting and resuming at the same time.

At the end of the day, its about money. If the above is what happened (like a situation I was part of years ago where that happened - our supply chain flooded us, so we split instead), then it makes sense.

Get DMBs rolling AND resume production? What's the outcome?
More Broncos. More Profit.
 

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How sure are you that yours is being built with 2.0? Could it be that assembly is taking place with 1.0 only for it to sit in DM for a while...?
 

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It's a First Edition. We knew this.
See the exact text above from Ford. It says “We need to replace all MIC tops before we can make any new Bronco hard tops…”. There is zero statement, asterisk or call out that FEs will be built during the change over. Not sure where you‘re getting ‘we knew this’.
 

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No one is suggesting they stop production, but they committed to not building any additional hard top vehicles until the ones already produced and sitting there were corrected. Ford cannot seem to follow through on any commitments to its customers.
I hear you, they say one thing and do another, consistently. I could understand if they are trying to crank out First Edition and Wildtraks as soon as they have the tops to do it. Those had no option for soft top in 21. Seems like MY21 soft top production is caught up, especially since we are hearing of orders being made and then a build date email being sent a couple weeks later. My guess is they are trying to keep the flow of new rigs going, and sprinkling in hard top builds keeps them at capacity. All speculation, as usual!
 

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If this is anything like my own history....
1. They got MIC 2.0 done and they are being produced.
2. DM Broncos get moved to get their tops swapped and shipped.
3. The top-swap location only has so much space. That space has to allow for old tops, new tops, and the Broncos that get them swapped.
4. What if they have way more tops than they can swap in a week, and more tops are coming?

They could throw more people at it, but again, limited space. They can only have so many there before it turns into a fustercluck. I am guessing they have optimized it and still can't keep up with the number of tops being made available now, so.. why not redirect the overflow of tops to the production line and resume there at the same time? It doesn't stop DMBs getting swapped and shipped, jsut splitting and resuming at the same time.

At the end of the day, its about money. If the above is what happened (like a situation I was part of years ago where that happened - our supply chain flooded us, so we split instead), then it makes sense.

Get DMBs rolling AND resume production? What's the outcome?
More Broncos. More Profit.
This is feasible, but opposite of what was stated, that’s the point.
 

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I looked at some dealer orders over the last few weeks and the high volume ones have like 5 or more "PRIORITY CODE 1" broncos in their order bank. I'm assuming these are probably 1st Editions, but it definitely does NOT correlate with what FORD promised. This lie has caused a BUNCH of early reservation holders that SWITCH TO A SOFT TOP to get MOVED4+ weeks into October. and those builds going on now through the end of September are these vehicles you speak of.

Unreal. LAST Ford vehicle I ever buy.
 

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I hear you, they say one thing and do another, consistently. I could understand if they are trying to crank out First Edition and Wildtraks as soon as they have the tops to do it. Those had no option for soft top in 21. Seems like MY21 soft top production is caught up, especially since we are hearing of orders being made and then a build date email being sent a couple weeks later. My guess is they are trying to keep the flow of new rigs going, and sprinkling in hard top builds keeps them at capacity. All speculation, as usual!
Soft top production is NOT caught up. My vehicle as well as a BUNCH of others that HAD 9-13 week build days (mine was Sept-17h) get JACKED by these vehicles and kicked 4-6 weeks down the road. My reservation date is Mid-day 7-14-2020
 

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Its pretty clear that the "First In First Out" theory is a lie. Looking at the B6G tracking on this forum the MICs getting released have been from all different weeks of production. No idea what "system" they are using.
TOITOO Method is being used!

That one in this one out!

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So it looks like Ford has lied to us once again. Despite Ford clearly saying that the Broncos already produced with the bad MIC Tops that are currently being held at MAP (actually sitting on Dirt Mountain) would get new tops before producing any additional vehicles with hard tops, it looks like that is not the case. The FE shown below was produced this week (9/16/21), shows as built, and is scheduled to be shipped. How can Ford continually lie to (or at the very least mislead) the customers over and over again?

Care to comment @Ford Motor Company ?

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Didn't Ford also promise all FE's will be built in 21?
 

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Soft top production is NOT caught up. My vehicle as well as a BUNCH of others that HAD 9-13 week build days (mine was Sept-17h) get JACKED by these vehicles and kicked 4-6 weeks down the road. My reservation date is Mid-day 7-14-2020
Sorry, I meant scheduling seems to be mostly set for 21, as in they have mostly figured out who will be built this year and who will be pushed to 22. But, shuffling of build weeks is absolutely still happening. Maybe dealer allocation is still playing a part? Again, my best speculations lol
 
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Didn't Ford also promise all FE's will be built in 21?
They did but what's your point? Mine is a FE and its waiting for a new top. If the FE thing is so important, replace all they FE dirt mountain roofs first. Point is, stop promising one thing, then doing something else and expect that the customers wont get pissed when they find out.
 
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