Being able to fit 34’s stock yes please now we’re in business. Don’t like how low that front bumper seems to hang though. The grill is looking pretty good too
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I was thinking the same thingIs it just me or does it appear to also have a different muffler/exhaust setup than the first tester we saw with the smaller tires?
There are no rear 1/4's on the prototypes right now. To me, thats a good thing, tells me that replacing panels will be fairly straight forward.Is the front end tapered in? Less than the dovetail of the Wrangler hood obviously, but the front seems to have a lot more padding and fender protrusion than the rear.
Good point, I do want a diesel, but I don't want that one...I can’t understand how anyone would want that engine. More expensive to buy, more expensive to operate, more to to fail, and less powerful than the 2.7.
I agree that this is not a fair representation of what you and others want and I value your criticism in general, but I also want to be fair and point out that between the bigger tires, clearance for said tires, and suspension geometry at ride height it is clear that this will travel and articulate much more than an Everest, perhaps it wont strictly articulate BETTER than jeep but there is evidence here that it will be more competitive than any stock offering we have seen. That's not reason to get on your knees either lol, two things I want to die: SFA fans want crappy old Broncos, and IFS on Bronco = lackluster Forerunner/FJ/H3/Everest performanceAlready got that Bronco.
Gonna take more than big tires to claim victory over Jeep. For all we know the Bronco will articulate like the Everest.
Let’s stop declaring it a winner until we actually see it do something.
Why, the 3 liter Ford diesel is a proven Land Rover motor and has been around for decades just not here in the USA. It has 450 ft lbs of torque, returns 25 mpg in FX4 trim (highest of any 4x4 models), makes all its power under 1800 rpm and is a beast whether towing or just driving around town. The only draw backs which is for all modern diesels is the diesel exhaust fluid and the Ford diesel uses a timing belt but it is the quietest diesel in its class on the market. It has the Powerstroke label and earns it, one of the best F150 motors have ever been put in the truck. I have gone 27 thousand miles so far on my 2018 and it has been flawless.Good point, I do want a diesel, but I don't want that one...
Its a great little engine, but it's still an updated version of a very old engine. Having worked on the 3rd Gen 6.7 there is basically nothing about the 3.0 diesel that impresses me, and knowing that we could have potentially had a 2.7 Achates in there instead makes me pretty bummed out. That, and the fact that GM made a ground up little I-6 architecture which is objectively better than ours.Why, the 3 liter Ford diesel is a proven Land Rover motor and has been around for decades just not here in the USA. It has 450 ft lbs of torque, returns 25 mpg in FX4 trim (highest of any 4x4 models), makes all its power under 1800 rpm and is a beast whether towing or just driving around town. The only draw backs which is for all modern diesels is the diesel exhaust fluid and the Ford diesel uses a timing belt but it is the quietest diesel in its class on the market. It has the Powerstroke label and earns it, one of the best F150 motors have ever been put in the truck. I have gone 27 thousand miles so far on my 2018 and it has been flawless.
Concur - it’s nothing to bash on Ford with the 3.0 Diesel - they just offer so many other great engines (probably to many) and the diesel doesn't make much sense. This is coming from a diesel advocate.Its a great little engine, but it's still an updated version of a very old engine. Having worked on the 3rd Gen 6.7 there is basically nothing about the 3.0 diesel that impresses me, and knowing that we could have potentially had a 2.7 Achates in there instead makes me pretty bummed out. That, and the fact that GM made a ground up little I-6 architecture which is objectively better than ours.
Looks to me like just bigger rubber, 2" lift in the front and an inch in the back would sure help that hangy downy fuel tank.Is this actually lifted in the suspension vs the previous prototype? Or just riding higher because of the significantly larger tire? I can't tell tbh