NJ/NY/Delaware/Eastern Pa./MD/Ct Volume Buyers?

[helifino16]

Hey folks,
We're hosting a get-together later this month. If you feel like venturing out on the Island, we'd like to have you join us. Here's the details. LINK HERE

Come on out - we had a great time last year and we're hoping to have a pretty good crowd this year - so plenty of Bronco's to look at and admire. DM me with questions.

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[Ducky]

That's why I got my running boards. Let them hit that, only thing it won't protect is if they have a door high enough to clear it.

Knowing my luck, I'll have a lifted bro-truck park next to me and instead of my door, it'll be the windows.

 

[Ducky]

After being a Day 3 Res, I can't believe it actually may happen.

Got an estimated delivery of 4/29 - 5/5. Here's to hoping everything goes smoothly.

 

[Fly by Nite]

Mine has been 'Built' and awaiting shipping for 11 days now. Est delivery is 4/9-4/15.
They better put it on a FAST train to meet the timeline!
I'm excited but getting a little annoyed now.... I mean, c'mon, put it on the train already!

 

[robtraut]

Mine has been 'Built' and awaiting shipping for 11 days now. Est delivery is 4/9-4/15.
They better put it on a FAST train to meet the timeline!
I'm excited but getting a little annoyed now.... I mean, c'mon, put it on the train already!

Don’t worry, with my luck, a huge batch will ship to PA right before mine gets built next week.

 

[Ducky]

Just got 2 emails this morning. First one was the "built" email. Second was the "shipped" email.
That was quick!

 

[Merc4x4]

Mine has been 'Built' and awaiting shipping for 11 days now. Est delivery is 4/9-4/15.
They better put it on a FAST train to meet the timeline!
I'm excited but getting a little annoyed now.... I mean, c'mon, put it on the train already!

Mine sat in Built stage for an extra week after the rest of my build week group was getting shipping notices.
It arrived with 22 miles and a piece of paper saying it went through extra QA.

Mine was put together well. I like to think they weren't just hooning around the lot, but when they finished having their fun for the day they went though and made sure everything was bolted tight and hoses were not rubbing.

 

[PowPow]

Sorry this happened to you, but what do you define as facing the wrong way?

haha, this is going to set off a debate, I can feel it!

the opposite of how about 98% of how people park. backed in.

The right way to park is head in.

it misaligns everything and is annoying AF.

Esp when I'm trying to park and someone decides they want to back into a spot and I have to sit there waiting for them to try and reverse into a spot. Even more maddening when they can't do it right, then pulls out again to realign. Just pull in.

I also hate when I park normal, and then someone backs in, and now I try to get out of my car and your mirrors are in my way.

Kids in the back seat of the backed in car and now primed to nail the front of my car. Or clip my mirror bc we're now misaligned and my mirrors are in the way of the person getting out of the other car.

and then people who pull in from the other row into the next row are also idiots. I was pulling into a spot once and some dope was trying to park facing out by coming through from the other row and nearly hit me head on. like c'mon people.

Also love when the person backing in can't judge their distance and ends up sticking out much further than they should be.

And finally the classic facing the wrong way move... I saw someone parked facing the wrong way, pull out, not judge it correctly and turn too soon to side swipe the car parked next to them.

To each their own, but I do whatever I can to avoid parking next to people who park facing the wrong way. But maybe that's why they do it? Because I see no other valid reason.

and if you tell me it's quicker, it's all a wash.

 

[Johnny Mo]

haha, this is going to set off a debate, I can feel it!

the opposite of how about 98% of how people park. backed in.

The right way to park is head in.

it misaligns everything and is annoying AF.

Esp when I'm trying to park and someone decides they want to back into a spot and I have to sit there waiting for them to try and reverse into a spot. Even more maddening when they can't do it right, then pulls out again to realign. Just pull in.

I also hate when I park normal, and then someone backs in, and now I try to get out of my car and your mirrors are in my way.

Kids in the back seat of the backed in car and now primed to nail the front of my car. Or clip my mirror bc we're now misaligned and my mirrors are in the way of the person getting out of the other car.

and then people who pull in from the other row into the next row are also idiots. I was pulling into a spot once and some dope was trying to park facing out by coming through from the other row and nearly hit me head on. like c'mon people.

Also love when the person backing in can't judge their distance and ends up sticking out much further than they should be.

And finally the classic facing the wrong way move... I saw someone parked facing the wrong way, pull out, not judge it correctly and turn too soon to side swipe the car parked next to them.

To each their own, but I do whatever I can to avoid parking next to people who park facing the wrong way. But maybe that's why they do it? Because I see no other valid reason.

and if you tell me it's quicker, it's all a wash.

Hate to break it to you bud- but backed in is SCIENTIFICALLY the safer way to park. I worked for a company that had a large fleet of service vehicles and we required the technicians to park backed in. Why you ask - because when you back in from the onset, you have everything in your surroundings visible to you. If you park head in and then back out of a spot, too many variables change from the time you get into your car and have to back out. If you are backed in - you get into your car and all of your surroundings are visible as you exit the spot.

If people can't drive - well they can't drive...so pulling out of a spot and sideswiping someone means they suck at driving - has nothing to do with backing in - besides they probably pulled thru the spot and didn't actually back in.

 

[PowPow]

Hate to break it to you bud- but backed in is SCIENTIFICALLY the safer way to park. I worked for a company that had a large fleet of service vehicles and we required the technicians to park backed in. Why you ask - because when you back in from the onset, you have everything in your surroundings visible to you. If you park head in and then back out of a spot, too many variables change from the time you get into your car and have to back out. If you are backed in - you get into your car and all of your surroundings are visible as you exit the spot.

If people can't drive - well they can't drive...so pulling out of a spot and sideswiping someone means they suck at driving - has nothing to do with backing in - besides they probably pulled thru the spot and didn't actually back in.

100% NOT scientific. I'd love to see the empirical data on the studies conducted. Not just bc one fleet manager said it was safer.

100% Subjective, yes.

When you're backing into a spot you lose all that same visibility you claim. So explain to me how it's different. That argument is negated every time. Bc no matter which way you park at some point you're backing into something.

So when the majority of people are parking one way, and a small group of people are parking the other way, that minority group is definitely the less safe group. It's going against the grain. Now if they passed a law and said everyone must park backing in, (first off, nightmare, could you actually imagine what parking lots would look like? there'd be fender benders hourly) then you could have an argument, because now everyone is on a level playing field. But when you go against the grain, it's always going to cause issues.

And maybe 20yrs ago you might, MIGHT be able to sway me. But now with reverse cameras, there is zero advantage. I can see everything I need to see while backing up. I even have alarms that go off to alert me if there is something in my way. Hell my seat even vibrates on the side to which the object appears in the camera. (at least in my one car it does, can't remember on the bronco)

Another reason I forgot to list, is bc it also messes up the flow. In order to back in, you need to go past the spot and then back. So if I'm behind you, you've now messed up the flow of traffic.

 

[robtraut]

When you're backing into a spot you lose all that same visibility you claim. So explain to me how it's different. That argument is negated every time. Bc no matter which way you park at some point you're backing into something.


And maybe 20yrs ago you might, MIGHT be able to sway me. But now with reverse cameras, there is zero advantage. I can see everything I need to see while backing up. I even have alarms that go off to alert me if there is something in my way. Hell my seat even vibrates on the side to which the object appears in the camera. (at least in my one car it does, can't remember on the bronco)

Another reason I forgot to list, is bc it also messes up the flow. In order to back in, you need to go past the spot and then back. So if I'm behind you, you've now messed up the flow of traffic.

The cameras work when you back into the spot too. You kind of invalidated your own argument there.

And maybe leave some room for the Holy Ghost when you’re following other cars in a parking lot.


(I don’t actually care. I’m just trying to pad things so we hit 1000 pages. )

 

[Johnny Mo]

100% NOT scientific. I'd love to see the empirical data on the studies conducted. Not just bc one fleet manager said it was safer.

100% Subjective, yes.

When you're backing into a spot you lose all that same visibility you claim. So explain to me how it's different. That argument is negated every time. Bc no matter which way you park at some point you're backing into something.

So when the majority of people are parking one way, and a small group of people are parking the other way, that minority group is definitely the less safe group. It's going against the grain. Now if they passed a law and said everyone must park backing in, (first off, nightmare, could you actually imagine what parking lots would look like? there'd be fender benders hourly) then you could have an argument, because now everyone is on a level playing field. But when you go against the grain, it's always going to cause issues.

And maybe 20yrs ago you might, MIGHT be able to sway me. But now with reverse cameras, there is zero advantage. I can see everything I need to see while backing up. I even have alarms that go off to alert me if there is something in my way. Hell my seat even vibrates on the side to which the object appears in the camera. (at least in my one car it does, can't remember on the bronco)

Another reason I forgot to list, is bc it also messes up the flow. In order to back in, you need to go past the spot and then back. So if I'm behind you, you've now messed up the flow of traffic.

Sorry bud I got some data to show you here:

https://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-...onditions/backed-in-car-parking-lot-space.htm

https://www.automotive-fleet.com/132822/aaa-warns-against-pull-forward-parking

https://safestart.com/news/4-reasons-backing-parking-spaces-safer/

You are ABSOLUTELY NOT in the same position backing up into a spot vs backing out of a spot from head in. The amount of time you lose sight of the parking lot is easily 10-15 seconds difference. So, sorry - you are WRONG.

And it wasn't 1 fleet manager - ask ANY fleet manager. This is discussed at the Service USA conference EXTENSIVELY on annual basis.

Your flow of traffic argument is meaningless - it's a parking lot there is no flow of traffic - you have to pass a spot to parallel park - how is that any different? People don't back in because it's harder...plain and simple, but it is statistically safer. Yeah all that technological stuff is great, but do you really think that'll help you in court if it fails and you hit someone or something?

 

[Rob1135ny]

Still waiting

 

[Rob1135ny]

1000

 

[Rob1135ny]

1000

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