No more tunes in Cali?? [WARNING: NO POLITICS]

[Rick Astley]

My biggest question: What does this have to do with the 2.7 engine?

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[vrtical]

FYI for Ford PCMs are VIN locked and cal to PATS. yeah you can get two PCMS but your gonna have to pay some money to get a duplicate.

 

[frogbronco]

Yeah, but then they ruin cool places like Austin, Montana and Idaho.....

Don't forget about Arizona

 

[OX1]

My biggest question: What does this have to do with the 2.7 engine?

No one is going to tune it? The problem with saying well screw Cali, is their disease is infectious.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ad-on-vehicle-emissions-standards/ar-BB1e5wLD

 

[lobbs611]

No one is going to tune it?

There will very likely still be some big names willing to go thru the EO process and make a legal tune. Ford could easily offer a 50-state legal one if they chose to.

 

[Gaucholoco]

and without the transplant imbeciles that ruined the place

To add to this comment, any respectable human being does not call it Cali.

 

[Rick Astley]

No one is going to tune it? The problem with saying well screw Cali, is their disease is infectious.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ad-on-vehicle-emissions-standards/ar-BB1e5wLD

I genuinely hope whoever thinks they are a "tuner" and can't either bypass emissions control (so much easier with pre-2005 OBDII), or comply with the testing of standards gets the credit they deserve. This guy is trying to get the word out that he's an uninformed customer and shouldn't have gone the direction he did.

That this guy paid for an emissions illegal tune and failed emissions is not exactly news. There are plenty of legal and valid tuning options. Most, if not all, will be outside the state of California.

If you live in CA and will register your car in CA, then you will need to pass CA emissions regs. I'm not seeing this as "news" that somebody failed, or wanted to bring it up as some sort of political bent.

 

[JesseS]

This is not new, carb has banned performance tunes in Calif for years, and getting around it is simple. A friend uses his M/H outside calif most all of the time he wanted to tune the V10v3 to gain that lost 50HP, so he had the tuner with loaded tune shipped to a out of state friend who forwarded it to him. As the SCT tuner stores the original tune it is only a 5 minute job to restore it prior to getting the engine tuned up or a smog check.

 

[Portapot]

Wait until they are all electric and the government just turns your car off when they don't like something.....if all our cars are dependent on the Grid imagine the control they will have.

 

[pan-y-cerveza]

So this guy put in a tune that wasn't legal in his state and then is surprised it doesn't pass?

Politics and state regulations aside you need to do your homework.

This is like straight-piping your vehicle and then blaming "the man" when you fail.

 

[OX1]

There will very likely still be some big names willing to go thru the EO process and make a legal tune. Ford could easily offer a 50-state legal one if they chose to.

Of course you would think eventually they would. But if this deal is what it appears, I'm screwed on 2 processors already. I don't think there is one 2.7 EO tune yet, is there? I hope this is just a Cali thing, but Jersey loves them some Cali regs.

Anyway, just a heads up to keep an eye on how this unravels, to those who might be tuning right away (which is not that far off these days).

 

[QuitPlayinWithYourDingy]

Hasnt this always been a thing?

Don't tune your car in a state that frowns upon it... seems pretty easy.

 

[adamruiz2001]

I went through this two years ago on my Lightning, quit a few Lightnings in the state of Cali were flagged at Smog stations, telling us to have our trucks inspected by a local smog ref, I failed because of all my mods and tune. I always keep my stock parts I take off, so I just had to put the truck back to stock with the stock tune and passed. After that, I put all my bolt on mods back on, but my smog legal tune back in the truck. I just made sure all my monitors were set. I had smog this year already and passed without issue. You only have to have the OEM tune when your vehicle is randomly selected to get smogged by a ref. I doubt the Bronco will be flagged, but who knows, most vehicles having to go to a ref station are the higher performance vehicles that are known to be modified. I am on a Lightning forum and I know of about 50 others that had to same issue I went through two years ago with their Lightnings.

 

[The Bronze]

This was an example of a bad tune. If the tune leaves the testing strategies alone, keep all the codes reporting and allows all OBD monitors to complete, this type of fail won’t occur. There is a difference between creating a tune that alters shifts, wot fueling and spark timing and creating a tune designed to defeat the emissions testing portion of the ECU altogether.

 

[csj]

FWIW, I took a look at the Ford Factory "power pack performance calibration" for the Ranger, it says 50 states legal and specifically notes it has Kali "carb" approval, so hopefully any such factory tune for the Bronco 2.7 will also be 50 states legal. Probably good enough for me.

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