Thats what the V8 guys come up with to justify their argument. Unfortunately for them the Ecoboost engines are just as reliable as a V8. So their argument is not valid. There Ecoboosts hitting 300k miles now.
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No V8 from Ford any time soon but mainly because of emissions penalties
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Well this is disapointing news ... especially seeing a Jeep comparison in the article... Am I sensing a little Bronco hate from Car and Driver ?
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Well this is disapointing news ... especially seeing a Jeep comparison in the article... Am I sensing a little Bronco hate from Car and Driver ?
Sooooo does that mean that y'all are gonna give up and stop complaining about it or?
First off im talking about Ecoboost engines in general. Not just the 4 cylinder. Second there are plenty of 4 cylinder engines that last a very long time and surpassing V8s.
There's plenty of people already starting to comment on the longevity of the Ecoboost engines. Even forum members on here have commented on their trouble free 100k+ mileage.
Do you really think the majority of Off-roading vehicles ate V8s? There's a ton Off Roading vehicles out there that are not V8.
If your so hard-core V8 why are you even in a Bronco Forum? The new Bronco will never have a V8. And with the strict emissions regulations getting even more strict by the year most V8s will be a thing of the past within 15 years. https://www.google.com/amp/s/jalopn...oboost-held-up-after-200-000-m-1790602670/amp
There's plenty of people already starting to comment on the longevity of the Ecoboost engines. Even forum members on here have commented on their trouble free 100k+ mileage.
Do you really think the majority of Off-roading vehicles ate V8s? There's a ton Off Roading vehicles out there that are not V8.
If your so hard-core V8 why are you even in a Bronco Forum? The new Bronco will never have a V8. And with the strict emissions regulations getting even more strict by the year most V8s will be a thing of the past within 15 years. https://www.google.com/amp/s/jalopn...oboost-held-up-after-200-000-m-1790602670/amp
I don't know why this should be such a big deal considering the boosted engines make huge torque numbers, which I'm guessing is what all the off-roaders want anyway.
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About 10 years ago Ford did an interesting torture test of the 3.5 when they introduced it on the F-150.
https://news.pickuptrucks.com/2011/...a-torture-tested-ecoboost-v-6-looks-like.html
The ecoboost series is fine.
https://news.pickuptrucks.com/2011/...a-torture-tested-ecoboost-v-6-looks-like.html
The ecoboost series is fine.
'99 Camaro SS with the stick was rated 17/26 and with the auto it was 15/23.
The new Mustang is 14/24 stick and 16/25 auto making 155 more horsepower than that LS1.
The LS engines have more displacement than the Modular/Coyote, so they naturally make more power at lower RPMs, so they can be geared to run lower RPMs on the highway and achieve better MPGs. The Camaro would do 1900 RPMs at 70mph while the Mustang is doing 2300 at the same speed.
If Ford had a small block/large displacement V8 in its lineup I'd be all for throwing it in the Bronco, but the Coyote is too wide and makes too little low end power, the 6.2 is massive and heavy, and even the new 7.3 pushrod design is much bigger than an LS and super heavy.
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Thankyou for that link. Next person who starts the "Cool, but do you trust the EcoBoost?" conversation will get a text with it as I walk away.
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The fact that “Even forum members on here have commented on their trouble free 100k+ mileage.” Even gets posted is evidence that people simply don’t trust the ecoboosts. 100k+ was a common place theme in the 1970s to show reliability - if 100k+ is the best ecoboosts can do in the 2020s then they have no chance.
There is simply no reason not to offer a V8 other than Ford is so committed to their ecoboosts that they cannot afford the embarrassment of building a decent small block V8 for the less than 3/4ton market.
Spare me the cries that the V6 is “good enough” I want the best not “good enough”. And the thousands of miles I’ve driven an F150 with the 2.7L I know that’s a frustrating engine that cannot get out of its own way. Now granted if your coming from a focus or some other small car it may be “adequate“ but for the rest of us we need a V8.
There is simply no reason not to offer a V8 other than Ford is so committed to their ecoboosts that they cannot afford the embarrassment of building a decent small block V8 for the less than 3/4ton market.
Spare me the cries that the V6 is “good enough” I want the best not “good enough”. And the thousands of miles I’ve driven an F150 with the 2.7L I know that’s a frustrating engine that cannot get out of its own way. Now granted if your coming from a focus or some other small car it may be “adequate“ but for the rest of us we need a V8.
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Did you even read the article on th EB torture test? No 70's V8 (with 165 factory HP ) would come close to surviving that.
Also, assuming supercrew F-150 that's about half a ton heavier than expected Bronco curb weight.
Sounds like you need a first gen build candidate to get what you want. If you can't buy it, build it.
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