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Time to come back to reality there space cadet.There is no way they are confirmed
they are literally impossible
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Time to come back to reality there space cadet.There is no way they are confirmed
they are literally impossible
They are not impossible because they are low, they are impossible because the are so close together.How are they impossible?
They seem quite reasonable if it were a V8, and being that the smaller engines will likely spend their lives in boost it makes sense to a degree that MPG would be in the high teens.
It's shaped like a brick. Ford spends way more time. effort, and money on the F150. The 2.7TT F150 gets better real world fuel economy than the Ranger.They are not impossible because they are low, they are impossible because the are so close together.
an f150 crewcab with the 2.7 10speed is rated at 19/24
you guys think a smaller and lighter bronco is going to be 17/17????
The bronco is officially the only non hybrid car ever to be rated by the epa to have the same city and highway mpg.
F150 has tiny 255 tires, 3.15 gearing, active aero shudders, air dams out the arse, plastic cladding under the truck directing air flow, the tires are tucked into the body and air is directed away from them, the truck has tons of little things that add up.They are not impossible because they are low, they are impossible because the are so close together.
an f150 crewcab with the 2.7 10speed is rated at 19/24
you guys think a smaller and lighter bronco is going to be 17/17????
The bronco is officially the only non hybrid car ever to be rated by the epa to have the same city and highway mpg.
They are not impossible because they are low, they are impossible because the are so close together.
an f150 crewcab with the 2.7 10speed is rated at 19/24
you guys think a smaller and lighter bronco is going to be 17/17????
The bronco is officially the only non hybrid car ever to be rated by the epa to have the same city and highway mpg.
ok maybe that explains the highway mpgF150 has tiny 255 tires, 3.15 gearing, active aero shudders, air dams out the arse, plastic cladding under the truck directing air flow, the tires are tucked into the body and air is directed away from them, the truck has tons of little things that add up.
The Bronco doesn’t have those things because they impede off-roading.
At 70MPH your still turning larger tires with steeper gears, and thanks to Fords insistence on turbos those engines are working under load and in boost at those speeds.
On the opposite end the steeper gears get the truck moving faster and easier at low speeds.
My truck is on 37s and 4.56s, it gets 13MPG both in city and Highway. So this makes perfect sense to me.
F150 weighs between 4-5,000 lbs, the Bronco is between 4-4,500lbs. Base Bronco and what they put on most F150s have about the same tire size. So yes probably 1,000lbs from each extreme.ok maybe that explains the highway mpg
but not the city
the base bronco is what 1200-1300lbs lighter real world than an f150crew cab.
The base bronco probably has smaller and lighter tires than the f150.
It should murder the f150 in city mpg. There are no tricks to city mpg. It takes x energy to move y inertia.
Surprisingly, all save about the same amount of gas over 10,000 miles: About 100 gallons.A) An improvement from 10 to 11 MPG
B) An improvement from 16.5 to 20 MPG
C) An improvement from 33 to 50 MPG
10 MPG = 1000 gallons
11 MPG = 900 gallons
16.5 MPG = 600 gallons
20 MPG = 500 gallons
33 MPG = 300 gallons
We want to emphasize that a higher MPG car is always more efficient than a lower MPG car for a given distance. We are not saying that a car that getst 11 MPG is somehow better than a car that gets 50 MPG -- to the contrary, we encourage all drivers to buy the most efficient vehicle they can. What we are saying is that MPG can be confusing when thinking about the benefits of improving MPG. The bottom line is that equal increases in MPG are not equal in gas savings.50 MPG = 200 gallons
While I have my doubts about these published numbers, the city=highway is certainly not unprecedented.They are not impossible because they are low, they are impossible because the are so close together.
an f150 crewcab with the 2.7 10speed is rated at 19/24
you guys think a smaller and lighter bronco is going to be 17/17????
The bronco is officially the only non hybrid car ever to be rated by the epa to have the same city and highway mpg.
I love Bronco6G. You can read in depth threads about GPM, gallons per mile, in one thread and adjustable 8112 springs in another, you just have to wade through a bunch of cup holders, better buy a Prius and you should cancel your orderI thought this was a pretty interesting perspective from mpgillusion.com Right or wrong it helps me rationalize and justify getting a basesquatch over a base base.
http://www.mpgillusion.com/p/what-is-mpg-illusion.html
What is the MPG Illusion?
Test your understanding of fuel efficiency with this interactive quiz.
Go here for the original Science article.
The Problem with MPG
What is the problem with MPG? Consider a decision between two cars--a current vehicle and a new vehicle that is more efficient. Which improvement will save the most gas over 10,000 miles?
Surprisingly, all save about the same amount of gas over 10,000 miles: About 100 gallons.
The way to calculate the amount of gas used is to divide distance by MPG. A quick check of the numbers above will confirm the following gas usage over 10,000 miles:
We want to emphasize that a higher MPG car is always more efficient than a lower MPG car for a given distance. We are not saying that a car that getst 11 MPG is somehow better than a car that gets 50 MPG -- to the contrary, we encourage all drivers to buy the most efficient vehicle they can. What we are saying is that MPG can be confusing when thinking about the benefits of improving MPG. The bottom line is that equal increases in MPG are not equal in gas savings.
As the examples above shows, small MPG improvements on inefficient cars can save a lot of gas. Of course, most people look at an improvement from 10 to 11, or 16 to 20, and think, why bother? But replacing an inefficient car with a car that is more efficient -- even by just a few miles per gallon -- is valuable in both gas savings and greenhouse gas reductions. Every 100 gallons saved reduces carbon dioxide emissions by 1 ton.
In short, you cannot simply look at an MPG increase from one vehicle to another to know the gas savings. Also, when a family thinks about its average fuel consumption, it cannot simply take an average MPG levels of two vehicles. Given two cars that are driven the same distance, the combination of 18 MPG and 50 MPG uses more gas than the combination of 28 MPG and 30 MPG. Direct comparisons of MPG is what leads to illusions. In each case, you have to convert MPG to know the amount of gas used.* We describe this step next.
I filled up a 32 gallon H2 that at the time only achieved 10.5MPG (pre regear) the whole way through that $3.50/gal phase.Regular unleaded is now over $3 a gallon and I imagine with inflationary conditions over the next 3-5 years (stimulus, pipeline cancellations, and increased overseas dependency) we will see $4 by summer 2022. I don’t think $2 a gallon is much of an inconvenience but $5 takes a hit as everything else (food, manufacturing logistics, ect) go up as well.
I have always exceeded "official" numbers including Ford products. How it is driven makes all the difference and highway driving is not all the same. I know plenty of drivers always modulating the throttle, they come up on traffic cut in & out and and floor it. Then complain about not making official numbers. City driving If you accelerate hard when the light turns green only to slam on your brakes at the next light you're mileage is going to suck. EcoBoost engines are powerful driving style is going to make more difference than your 130HP 4-banger.No. It is not. Ford EcoBoost products tend to not meet their official MPG. I expect every Bronco to have real world fuel economy below the 18.7 MPG real world fuel economy of my Ranger.
Maybe the 2.3T 7 speed will beat the 18.7. That's the only exception.