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Apologies if this has been covered already and I just didn't see it, but anyone have any idea of what the impact will look like on the swap on OBX to the rear locker? As far as I can understand the stock for OBX is 3.73 ratio (so presumably that's the numbers that are on page 1 of this post), but the change to the locker (for non SAS) looks like it's 4.27. I'm sure that would impact MPG in some way shape or form, but I don't know enough about this stuff to know how much.
It only makes sense lower gearing and big tires are significant factors when it comes to mileage. SAS tires are heavy folks and the energy it takes to turn them isn't free. This is why the lower trim levels are rated 20 - 22 and SAS 17-17, a significant difference in my option.
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It's shaped like a brick. Ford spends way more time. effort, and money on the F150. The 2.7TT F150 gets better real world fuel economy than the Ranger.
Who says Ford spends way more time and effort on the F150? Considering industry analysts are saying this is the most important vehicle for Ford and its future I doubt there is any truth to it. Its shaped like a brick because that is what customers want, not because Ford is withholding time and effort, that is nonsensical.
 

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They are not impossible because they are low, they are impossible because the are so close together.

an f150 crewcab with the 2.7 10speed is rated at 19/24

you guys think a smaller and lighter bronco is going to be 17/17????

The bronco is officially the only non hybrid car ever to be rated by the epa to have the same city and highway mpg.
The 17/17 is a result of huge heavy tires and low gearing. The 20-22 rating for non-SAS pretty respectable when compared to any 4WD truck.
 

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It only makes sense lower gearing and big tires are significant factors when it comes to mileage. SAS tires are heavy folks and the energy it takes to turn them isn't free. This is why the lower trim levels are rated 20 - 22 and SAS 17-17, a significant difference in my option.

Maybe I didn't ask that correctly, If I took the OBX and just swapped the locking axle (which is an $800 option, but I'm assuming doesn't change the tires) That would change the gear ratio, but not the wheels/tires. My question is the normal OBX (with 2.3 auto) is rated 20/22/21, I'm assuming that just changing to that different gear ratio with the rear locker (4.27 as compared to 3.73 standard for that model) would impact the MPG, but presumably not as much as say, going full on SAS with the bigger tires and the 4.7 (which would be 18/18/18).
 

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Seriously wtf are we going to do about range? I'm not surprised by the poor mileage but am surprised that any automaker is releasing a new vehicle with less than 300 mile range. For my planned for use, my likely range for my 2 door badlands is 250 miles. That is unacceptable in Utah and much of the west.

Where/how can I carry a gas can? How likely is an aftermarket aux tank?

This could be a deal breaker for me...
Going full on rock crawler comes with compromises. If you need more range and better MPG drop the SAS and go with a lower trim level 4-door. A Jeep Wrangler 2-door is about the same.
 

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I would be very curious to do a fair comparison test between a JLU on 35’s vs a Bronco on 35’s as far as mileage is concerned. Just doing some research on the JL forums about half of people say that 35’s don’t affect the mileage too much, and half the people say they start getting 15-16 MPG. Would be interesting to see the difference.
 

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I would be very curious to do a fair comparison test between a JLU on 35’s vs a Bronco on 35’s as far as mileage is concerned. Just doing some research on the JL forums about half of people say that 35’s don’t affect the mileage too much, and half the people say they start getting 15-16 MPG. Would be interesting to see the difference.
Would love a valid comparison as well.

Unfortunately the only way to get valid would mean those that added 35s would have to of had their speedo recalibrate or the MPG calc is not correct. Both their distance and their speed are wrong.
 

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I live in the KC area so it’s pretty flat roads. You have the 4dr too right with steel bumpers? I’m surprised you’re able to get that because I’ve never seen anything higher than 17mpg on a tank.

Me as well.. 2018 4dr Sahara with 3.6L on 33" KO2s I average 17.5 mostly driving 50-60mph

Get on the interstate down here doing 75-80 it drops to 15
 

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It would kinda cool if some dealers offered some sort of deal with a CPO/used daily driver with significantly better MPG to go along with the purchase of the big bronco. For instance, I'm getting a 2 door Wildtrak and it would be nice if I could get a discount on a Fiesta for my daily driver. Ehh, I don't know, I have my doubts the more I think about it :/
 

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Going full on rock crawler comes with compromises. If you need more range and better MPG drop the SAS and go with a lower trim level 4-door. A Jeep Wrangler 2-door is about the same.
Don't have sas and if I could select options alacarte I likely wouldn't have the badlands....

Range is a concern. If you saw a 260 mile range on an ev would you think it was satisfactory? Would you just say, "well going full ev has it's compromises".

You might say that, but for me any vehicle with a range less than 300 has a problem.
 

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Don't have sas and if I could select options alacarte I likely wouldn't have the badlands....

Range is a concern. If you saw a 260 mile range on an ev would you think it was satisfactory? Would you just say, "well going full ev has it's compromises".

You might say that, but for me any vehicle with a range less than 300 has a problem.
yeah, they really blew it with the small tank here. If you're going 75 the range probably drops below 260. Driving from SF to LA I would have to fill up twice. 😂
 

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yeah, they really blew it with the small tank here. If you're going 75 the range probably drops below 260. Driving from SF to LA I would have to fill up twice. 😂
80 is the legal speed limit in much of Utah. Even on my 20 mile commute in SLC I usually cruise at 80 with traffic but in the city the speed limit is 65 or 70 so you are breaking the law at that speed.
 

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yeah, they really blew it with the small tank here. If you're going 75 the range probably drops below 260. Driving from SF to LA I would have to fill up twice. 😂
Ford just looking out for our health. We shouldn't be sitting for more than 2 hours so we have to stop to stretch our legs at the gas station :ROFLMAO:
 

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80 is the legal speed limit in much of Utah. Even on my 20 mile commute in SLC I usually cruise at 80 with traffic but in the city the speed limit is 65 or 70 so you are breaking the law at that speed.
Hell, if I go 80, I'll have to fill up every hour! 😂
 

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No. It is not. Ford EcoBoost products tend to not meet their official MPG. I expect every Bronco to have real world fuel economy below the 18.7 MPG real world fuel economy of my Ranger.

Maybe the 2.3T 7 speed will beat the 18.7. That's the only exception.
My fiesta st beats the ratings on every tank
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