Ordering strategy to guarantee you pay MSRP with no ADM - would this work?

[Zinn]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but after reading a lot I think there might be a strategy that would guarantee you will pay MSRP or less. This hinges on the fact that the Bronco reservations are not dealer allocations. That means if you don't order, the dealer does not get the vehicle on their lot to sell.

I've read reports of dealers saying they'll allow people to order without putting any deposit down, but this is a trick to allow them to negotiate the price with you later - once the vehicle is already on their lot. At this point they have you over a barrel. If you don't pay whatever price they want to charge you won't get the vehicle and they can sell it to someone else.

The trick here is to make sure they don't get a vehicle to sell if they don't agree to MSRP, and it looks like this:

1. When the time comes to place your order, politely inform your dealer that you expect to pay MSRP
2. Make them write up a bill of sale for MSRP and offer to put some money down ($500 - $1000) as a deposit. This is crucial - having a price in writing and putting money down creates a contract.
3. If the dealer refuses to do this, go to step 1
4. Place your order with Ford only after you have an agreement on price in writing
5. Once your vehicle is on the lot, the dealer has to sell it at the agreed-upon price or it's fraud

Again, the ordering process hinges on you. If you don't actually order, that's one less vehicle the dealer can actually sell (because again it's not an allocation). Sure they'd rather charge you an extra $10k, but if you don't order they will get $0. Force the dealer into the decision between making the modest profit on MSRP or zero and see which one they agree to.

I haven't tried this yet (and probably won't need to because I have a good dealer) but I think this could help people who are worried about being charged ADM. Would this actually work?

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[LemonShark]

I'll be curious to see what industry folks have to say here. It sounds logical to me, and when things sound logical, I automatically assume it wont work out that way.

I'd be happy to drop a SERIOUS deposit, it it meant I got what I ordered for the price advertised.

 

[Granger Ford]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but after reading a lot I think there might be a strategy that would guarantee you will pay MSRP or less. This hinges on the fact that the Bronco reservations are not dealer allocations. That means if you don't order, the dealer does not get the vehicle on their lot to sell.

I've read reports of dealers saying they'll allow people to order without putting any deposit down, but this is a trick to allow them to negotiate the price with you later - once the vehicle is already on their lot. At this point they have you over a barrel. If you don't pay whatever price they want to charge you won't get the vehicle and they can sell it to someone else.

The trick here is to make sure they don't get a vehicle to sell if they don't agree to MSRP, and it looks like this:

1. When the time comes to place your order, politely inform your dealer that you expect to pay MSRP
2. Make them write up a bill of sale for MSRP and offer to put some money down ($500 - $1000) as a deposit. This is crucial - having a price in writing and putting money down creates a contract.
3. If the dealer refuses to do this, go to step 1
4. Place your order with Ford only after you have an agreement on price in writing
5. Once your vehicle is on the lot, the dealer has to sell it at the agreed-upon price or it's fraud

Again, the ordering process hinges on you. If you don't actually order, that's one less vehicle the dealer can actually sell (because again it's not an allocation). Sure they'd rather charge you an extra $10k, but if you don't order they will get $0. Force the dealer into the decision between making the modest profit on MSRP or zero and see which one they agree to.

I haven't tried this yet (and probably won't need to because I have a good dealer) but I think this could help people who are worried about being charged ADM. Would this actually work?

Step 1. Or ask for a discount say $1000 under invoice.

Dealership nor purchaser can renegotiate price once agreed to and signed by both parties

 

[atonge40]

When I've ordered vehicles in the past, I have agreed on the price at order, and we put it in writing (even on A-Plan deals). That is for my protection and the dealership's protection. This is just for the sale price of the vehicle. It doesn't include any extras or a trade. I would highly recommend doing the same.

 

[DonsBronc]

make sure they will honor X plan

 

[Gamecock]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but after reading a lot I think there might be a strategy that would guarantee you will pay MSRP or less. This hinges on the fact that the Bronco reservations are not dealer allocations. That means if you don't order, the dealer does not get the vehicle on their lot to sell.

I've read reports of dealers saying they'll allow people to order without putting any deposit down, but this is a trick to allow them to negotiate the price with you later - once the vehicle is already on their lot. At this point they have you over a barrel. If you don't pay whatever price they want to charge you won't get the vehicle and they can sell it to someone else.

The trick here is to make sure they don't get a vehicle to sell if they don't agree to MSRP, and it looks like this:

1. When the time comes to place your order, politely inform your dealer that you expect to pay MSRP
2. Make them write up a bill of sale for MSRP and offer to put some money down ($500 - $1000) as a deposit. This is crucial - having a price in writing and putting money down creates a contract.
3. If the dealer refuses to do this, go to step 1
4. Place your order with Ford only after you have an agreement on price in writing
5. Once your vehicle is on the lot, the dealer has to sell it at the agreed-upon price or it's fraud

Again, the ordering process hinges on you. If you don't actually order, that's one less vehicle the dealer can actually sell (because again it's not an allocation). Sure they'd rather charge you an extra $10k, but if you don't order they will get $0. Force the dealer into the decision between making the modest profit on MSRP or zero and see which one they agree to.

I haven't tried this yet (and probably won't need to because I have a good dealer) but I think this could help people who are worried about being charged ADM. Would this actually work?

There are plenty of dealers offering to not add ADM....getting MSRP should be the very worst deal you should take with a reservation. Nothing special needs to be done other than having multiple dealers available and to negotiate with multiple dealers and willingness to move dealers at order time.
You should pay less than MSRP.....with minimal effort.

 

[toystwo]

2. Make them write up a bill of sale for MSRP and offer to put some money down ($500 - $1000) as a deposit. This is crucial - having a price in writing and putting money down creates a contract.

You already have a $100 deposit with your chosen dealer, no need for additional deposit.

 

[bladsquatch]

You already have a $100 deposit with your chosen dealer, no need for additional deposit.

This is 100% false. You have placed a refundAble deposit to get a reservation to have the option to purchase the vehicle. There’s no agreement to buy or set price yet.

 

[North7]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but after reading a lot I think there might be a strategy that would guarantee you will pay MSRP or less. This hinges on the fact that the Bronco reservations are not dealer allocations. That means if you don't order, the dealer does not get the vehicle on their lot to sell.

I've read reports of dealers saying they'll allow people to order without putting any deposit down, but this is a trick to allow them to negotiate the price with you later - once the vehicle is already on their lot. At this point they have you over a barrel. If you don't pay whatever price they want to charge you won't get the vehicle and they can sell it to someone else.

The trick here is to make sure they don't get a vehicle to sell if they don't agree to MSRP, and it looks like this:

1. When the time comes to place your order, politely inform your dealer that you expect to pay MSRP
2. Make them write up a bill of sale for MSRP and offer to put some money down ($500 - $1000) as a deposit. This is crucial - having a price in writing and putting money down creates a contract.
3. If the dealer refuses to do this, go to step 1
4. Place your order with Ford only after you have an agreement on price in writing
5. Once your vehicle is on the lot, the dealer has to sell it at the agreed-upon price or it's fraud

Again, the ordering process hinges on you. If you don't actually order, that's one less vehicle the dealer can actually sell (because again it's not an allocation). Sure they'd rather charge you an extra $10k, but if you don't order they will get $0. Force the dealer into the decision between making the modest profit on MSRP or zero and see which one they agree to.

I haven't tried this yet (and probably won't need to because I have a good dealer) but I think this could help people who are worried about being charged ADM. Would this actually work?

Maybe, but the simpler solution is to just sign up for X-plan.

 

[atonge40]

This is 100% false. You have placed a refundAble deposit to get a reservation to have the option to purchase the vehicle. There’s no agreement to buy or set price yet.

You don't need an additional deposit at most dealers though. I know I don't.

 

[WildTrak]

Step 1. Or ask for a discount say $1000 under invoice.

Dealership nor purchaser can renegotiate price once agreed to and signed by both parties

I know I am going to be pushing Granger HARD for $1,001.00 under invoice... just so I can say I paid less than others. Might mean I have to bring Albert lunch when I go into sign the papers...

 

[Granger Ford]

This is 100% false. You have placed a refundAble deposit to get a reservation to have the option to purchase the vehicle. There’s no agreement to buy or set price yet.

Once the reservation is converted the refundable goes away...

Justa heads up on that

 

[ScientistNK]

Step 1. Or ask for a discount say $1000 under invoice.

Dealership nor purchaser can renegotiate price once agreed to and signed by both parties

I am in South Florida and I am looking to lease my Bronco. How would that work if I were to switch my reservation to you?

 

[Rausy91]

I know I am going to be pushing Granger HARD for $1,001.00 under invoice... just so I can say I paid less than others. Might mean I have to bring Albert lunch when I go into sign the papers...

Ummm....unless Albert eats saltine crackers or a piece of gum for lunch, you're kind of getting the short end of the stick.

 

[Granger Ford]

Now that is an interesting question...I will have to get back to you on that..not my area of expertise even though I lease most of my first year models...

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