Pulled Over For No Doors in PA [WARNING: NO POLITICS]

[buck_6G]

Did you know about the law requiring doors prior to buying your Bronco?

It seems like something that wouldn't be very well known to the general public, but your dealer should have mentioned it if they operate in PA.

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[Bucker]

I had a Highway Patrol follow me off the freeway. Several miles later he was right behind me as I pulled into the garage. Having an Oh SH.... moment, he rolled down his window and asked if he could look at my Bronco!

 

[idobleedblue]

Take the roof off and it seems like you are in compliance.

It says “unless the vehicle has been modified to the extent that there is no roof or side”. It doesn’t say that BOTH the roof and side have to be removed…I’d think that it should pass if you have the top removed

I’m sure others below me have already mentioned it (I haven’t gotten that far in the thread yet) but I would not interpret that as saying if you have no roof then you don’t need the doors. Since it says “The doors shall open and close securely unless the vehicle has been manufactured or modified to the extent that there is no roof or side.” I take that as meaning exactly what it says… the doors don’t need to open and close securely if there is no roof. Not that you don’t need doors if there is no roof… just that the required doors don’t need to open and close securely if there is no roof.
But I’m no lawyer so don’t quote me on that.

 

[PittShawn]

I've had a few really good discussions with local cops in the airport area in Pittsburgh. Most pull up at the stop light and comment on how cool it looks with doors off. I haven't had 1 mention it's illegal though I know technically it is. I did have one that suggested I make sure the doors are on if it's a "happy hour" day to avoid a reason to be stopped. Good advice! And as I saw from another thread, DO NOT LEAVE the back carpet floor mats in if doors are off or you'll have a littering fine to go with it when they fly out. I put the rubber mats back in as soon as I saw the issue.

 

[Wild51]

Tube doors are not original equipment, they re optional.

I mean technically my 2.7 engine is optional…still original factory equipment.

 

[2100]

Yeah, when we visit my daughter and her family in Chester County, the local Giant and Wegmans sell beer and wine, but only at specific checkout registers. Go figure. Like all of their employees aren't capable of checking IDs?

It's more likely due to needing to keep the alcohol revenues separate. Every grocery store, Sheetz, etc I've been in has a dedicated register for alcohol sales.

 

[brianbrn]

and yet you can legally ride a motorcycle around. it makes me laugh at some of the laws.

 

[brianbrn]

A quick search of the internet regarding Jeeps and apparently our fine commonwealth is the only state that prohibits doorless driving.

Yet we can pilot our 100hp+ bikes without helmets or seat belts.

What if Ford built the Broncos with molle mesh panels and the metal doors were optional?

netted doors are coming. wonder if that would count as a door.

 

[AZ_Liberty]

It's more likely due to needing to keep the alcohol revenues separate. Every grocery store, Sheetz, etc I've been in has a dedicated register for alcohol sales.

Where I live there will sometimes be a sign that says "no alchohol sales this register". It's always because the person running the register is under 21.

 

[Chippewa-Pin]

netted doors are coming. wonder if that would count as a door.

Tube doors, no interest. Net doors, yes please. I doubt a cop would pull anyone over with tubes or nets on.

 

[Rusty Sheckelford]

Simple, by adding a bump stock to the back of the Bronco... Got to make that 2.7 turn over somehow.

What? NO! We must BAN deadly assault Broncos!

NO ONE needs a fully-Automatic 4x4.

 

[2100]

I’m sure others below me have already mentioned it (I haven’t gotten that far in the thread yet) but I would not interpret that as saying if you have no roof then you don’t need the doors. Since it says “The doors shall open and close securely unless the vehicle has been manufactured or modified to the extent that there is no roof or side.” I take that as meaning exactly what it says… the doors don’t need to open and close securely if there is no roof. Not that you don’t need doors if there is no roof… just that the required doors don’t need to open and close securely if there is no roof.
But I’m no lawyer so don’t quote me on that.

Not a lawyer myself, but make a living reading legal opinions and historical legal documents (including civil court cases) and I would agree. The word "shall

Where I live there will sometimes be a sign that says "no alchohol sales this register". It's always because the person running the register is under 21.

I'd wager that is not the reason here in PA. Very educated guess.

 

[Mpatient1]

PA does have some strange laws. Growing up, you could not shop on Sunday except at groceries and pharmacies. Some stores figured out that they could pay the fine and stay open and make a profit. I could see how this could turn towards politics but I am just relating to the odd laws in some states.

Yup, if it's only imposing a fine it readily becomes a business expense.

 

[Nateandapril]

The title of the thread says no politics but the topic is literally about enforcement of local laws…. Aka politics.

 

[tjnoffy]

It's more likely due to needing to keep the alcohol revenues separate. Every grocery store, Sheetz, etc I've been in has a dedicated register for alcohol sales.

Well, the computerized registers are quite capable of categorizing and separating the revenue for different product catagories, including alcohol. Plus, at these stores you can buy regular groceries alongside your alcohol purchases at these assigned registers.

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