Re-gear a Base Non-SAS? $$$?

[Bruno]

Base, 2.3, Auto.
Fine with minimum GOAT modes, diff locking & minimum trim level.

Want to run 35" +/- TIres.
Need Gears & Lift :
* I understand running 35's on the standard non-SAS gearing, is potentially a very bad driving experience.

Is it cost effective to buy a non SAS, and change the gears and add whatever lift/leveling ?
Or is the $5,790-$7,000 SAS add - to a Base 2.3 Auto - the most cost effective option?

*I would prefer to add my own skid plates + whatever else comes with the SAS - that's not gearing and lift.
*I think avaliability of product to do this is becoming more avaliable.
* I saw somewhere the (center?) diff. needs to be completely replaced?

Sorry if this is addressed elsewhere!!

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[Tricky Dick]

I've regeared other rigs for as little as $500 an axle, but I had a guy that worked cheap and parts were plentiful. First you need to go to a site like Randy's R&P and see if parts are even available.

The only way I'd want to regear myself is if I was going bigger than 35s, then I could skip right to deeper gears in the 5s.

 

[Blksn955.o]

The non sasq or m210 front is also welded to the diff so you would need the e-locker and gears and probably easier to buy the complete m210 setup and swap it out.

Cost wise basesquatch is a killer deal for what you get. locked front and rear 4.70 gears, and the upgraded m210 front along with the 8.5 in wide rims and 315 tires. Doing all of that after the fact will cost more than the sasq package.

 

[Bruno]

The non sasq or m210 front is also welded to the diff so you would need the e-locker and gears and probably easier to buy the complete m210 setup and swap it out.

Cost wise basesquatch is a killer deal for what you get. locked front and rear 4.70 gears, and the upgraded m210 front along with the 8.5 in wide rims and 315 tires. Doing all of that after the fact will cost more than the sasq package.

Thanks yea that's the problem I don't want the wheels and tires, I want skinny 35"+ tires on skinny 16" steel wheels. Fenders delete.

 

[Ramble_Offroad]

Wheels and tires are temporary & easily replaced, gears not so much. I ordered a Sas specifically for the gears because I want the factory set up. Eventually re-gearing a Bronco will be commonplace but with parts & experience being hard to come by these days regearing these trucks will be spicy IMPO. If and when my 2Door ever materializes I’ll be swapping out and selling the factory wheels & tires immediately.

 

[dhut2022]

I've asked this question before and here are some conclusions I came to:

- Are you just assuming the driving experience will be bad based on what certain users have said? I've also talked with users who said the driving experience IMPROVED with the larger tires and same gear ratio.
- Regearing is expensive and you have to know the shop you're working with will do quality work.
- You run the risk of voiding a decent chunk of the factory warranty if you opt to re-gear through a 3rd party store.

My 2 cents: Put the 35s on and drive for a little while. If you don't like it, install a pedal monster/commander and see if that improves your experience. If no dice, then consider regearing.

 

[Felix808]

I've regeared other rigs for as little as $500 an axle, but I had a guy that worked cheap and parts were plentiful. First you need to go to a site like Randy's R&P and see if parts are even available.

The only way I'd want to regear myself is if I was going bigger than 35s, then I could skip right to deeper gears in the 5s.

$500 an axle, your guy didn't even get paid unless this was in the 70's. It's going to be $500+/axle in parts alone & that's if you can get them.

 

[Trail_Runner]

If you plan on 35s go with the SAS, for the M210 vs the M190 front, plus lockers.

Unless you are just building a pavement princess, then you will need new carriers and a gears. Figure $1500 in parts plus labor (my guess $1000? I do my own gears).

 

[‘21OBX]

The base Sasquatch is the best value going. Get the sas sell the wheels tires for $2600 and buy the setup you want. I kick myself for not looking harder or ordering a sas. I bought a mannequin because I wanted one faster than ordering. The gearing lockers and shocks and flares aren’t cheap to do afterwards. I have 4.27 gears and like them well but I’d love to have a locking front diff. If you don’t want the flares people will trade you for the standard any day of the week.

 

[Oldhippie]

Couple things...warrenty!!! Sasquatch gets ya that...stronger front differential, Sasquatch gets ya that...electronics (these things are are all computer controlled and intertwined), Sasquatch gets ya that...sure ya can throw some lockers in there and “jury rig” them to work, but is that what ya really want to do to a new rig?

 

[Butzy]

Thanks yea that's the problem I don't want the wheels and tires, I want skinny 35"+ tires on skinny 16" steel wheels. Fenders delete.

I'll soon have a set of base wheels I'd gladly trade for your squatches....

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