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For me it wouldn't be about being as green as possible, but trying to go further in between gas stops if this becomes my only vehicle. But with all the arm-chair engineers and mechanics (no offense cause some have actually given some great info) in these threads I just keep getting more confused. "These engines suck!" "These engines are great!" "The 10 speed sucks!" "The 10 speed is awesome!" "33s are crap, go 35s" "35s are crap go with 33s" "both suck go with 37s." Feel like I'm going in circles being on here haha. You guys may end up having me buy a Fiesta by accident 🤪.
Hey let’s not bring Fiestas into it! I’m keeping mine. A Bronco and a fiesta ST seems like a good combo to me.😆





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Lol Looks like Green Energy is not working in California ..2 days of blackouts, sorry Tesla owners you are out of electricity.

They Ended nuclear, they got rid of their natural gas power plants, no coal. All that is left is wind and solar...today California's Governor said we have to come to reality..pure green energy can't supply the energy that is required..well duh

Gas stations still have gas powered generators powering their pumps..so gas power cars doing fine
 

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This 450 hp hybrid is just the opposite of what a Bronco should be (not the HP), the reliability of a serious off-road vehicle should be top on the list. I believe the hybrid is going in the wrong direction on the "reliability' chart. There are going to be a lot of buyers that buy an off road vehicle for the "look", it will never see the dirt. These are the same guys that put cattle guards/brush guards on their trucks, and the truck has never left the pavement, nor have they ever been in/on a range with cattle (they like the look). For the "city use only" buyers they may like it, but as a real no BS off road vehicle, it [hybid systems]has a lot of proving to do.
 

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Lol Looks like Green Energy is not working in California ..2 days of blackouts, sorry Tesla owners you are out of electricity.

They Ended nuclear, they got rid of their natural gas power plants, no coal. All that is left is wind and solar...today California's Governor said we have to come to reality..pure green energy can't supply the energy that is required..well duh

Gas stations still have gas powered generators powering their pumps..so gas power cars doing fine
A lot of things aren't working in CA!!! But I guess most of the people that live there like the way things are going, or they would make changes.....
 

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I don’t see hybrid technology as some space age thing that’s going to make the bronco unreliable. It’s extra batteries and an electric motor. It’s not a space shuttle.

Is there some massive amount of hybrid failures I could be unaware of? As far as I know they’re just as reliable as regular vehicles. Last time I talked to my ford service department they said they hadn’t had a single problem with any of theirs. I don’t think he was lying I’ve known the guy for years and he’s not a salesman
 

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I don’t see hybrid technology as some space age thing that’s going to make the bronco unreliable. It’s extra batteries and an electric motor. It’s not a space shuttle.

Is there some massive amount of hybrid failures I could be unaware of? As far as I know they’re just as reliable as regular vehicles. Last time I talked to my ford service department they said they hadn’t had a single problem with any of theirs. I don’t think he was lying I’ve known the guy for years and he’s not a salesman
This! Hybrid tech is an evolution of 20 year old technology. It’s not new. It’s quite mature. In fact, it’s so mature that I doubt most will even care it’s offered. EV is where the star power is now.
 

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Lol Looks like Green Energy is not working in California ..2 days of blackouts, sorry Tesla owners you are out of electricity.

They Ended nuclear, they got rid of their natural gas power plants, no coal. All that is left is wind and solar...today California's Governor said we have to come to reality..pure green energy can't supply the energy that is required..well duh

Gas stations still have gas powered generators powering their pumps..so gas power cars doing fine

It's be hard to get more facts wrong in this post
You may want to double check your sources
 

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The M247 (Sgt. York) was to last at least that long!!! Suppose to, and did, are never quite the same thing.
that DIVAD was never accepted into service. it was so bad they made a dudley moore movie around it.
 

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that DIVAD was never accepted into service. it was so bad they made a dudley moore movie around it.
Nonetheless, the Army built and paid for at least 50 units, they failed. One main reason was the "mature" radar system! I was at Ft. Bliss at the time. More parts, more systems, almost always results in a greater chance of failure-when equipment is used in a rugged off road type environment.
 

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Nonetheless, the Army built and paid for at least 50 units, they failed. One main reason was the "mature" radar system! I was at Ft. Bliss at the time. More parts, more systems, almost always results in a greater chance of failure-when equipment is used in a rugged off road type environment.
JLTV is just a bit more successful. over 3000 delivered as of last year.
DOT&E is so much fun...

they use the m-247 as the class example of how not to do it
 

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Well, after reading only three pages of comments I guess I shouldn't be surprised. 🤦‍♂️ Amazing what tac and social civility have turned into....and yeah, its a forum so why should I be surprised. Sorry but between the........this sucks, that sucks and you suck......you lost me. No points........... Seems anyone writing....Hybrid, Electric, solar, Zero Emissions in an auto forum......you can see the Confirmation Bias Hulk rip his clothes off. I guess Its amazing the conversation that could be taking place instead of most of what is. I'm sure I'll be torn apart for writing that.

Soooo.......anyway........

Was anyone really that surprised that a hybrid "could" be coming? Add to that, Jeep is trying to put an all electric Wrangler together! Its already been shown off at the last big auto show. Throw in pressure from the Cybertruck to the Rivian and what we all know will eventually lead to an SUV version of those soon after. To me, all I see is Ford adopting to the times.🤷‍♂️
And so the world turns.........Electric Wrangler and new Grand Wagoneer----> Wrangler 4xev
 

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