Report: New Ford Bronco will have solid axles!

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Watch out Jeep Wrangler, the 2021 Ford Bronco may feature sold axles. Supplier Dana has revealed that it's working on the driveline for the new Ford Bronco and that both the Bronco (and Ranger) will have "front and rear axles featuring our latest AdvanTEK gear technology." That means solid axle for both front and rear!

Dana also makes the solid axles for the Jeep Wrangler, and here's the kicker -- the Bronco's solid axles will also be made in the same new plant in Toledo, Ohio that will begin making axles for the next generation Wrangler (JL) later this year.

This news just made our wait for the true off-road capable new Ford Bronco that much harder!


The report comes via Automotive News:

Yo, Jeep: Better check that mirror. You’re about to get some company on what has been a pretty lonely and profitable off-road climb.

In an investor presentation this month, Dana revealed that it had won the driveline work for the return of the Ford Bronco in 2020, along with the Ford Ranger in 2019. Dana confirmed that both vehicles will have “front and rear axles featuring our latest AdvanTEK gear technology.”

What does that mean?

It means the midsize and body-on-frame Bronco in 2020 -- like the current and next-generation Jeep Wrangler -- will have Dana solid axles front and rear.

And it means that Ford Motor Co. Executive Chairman Bill Ford wasn’t kidding when he said this month: “It will be a true, tough Bronco; a real off-road vehicle.”

Ford first introduced the Bronco in 1965 as a direct competitor to the Jeep CJ. The Bronco shared many -- but not all -- of the CJ’s attributes, such as solid axles, a small wheelbase and a removable top. Dana even made the axles for the last Broncos.

But Ford discontinued the Bronco in 1996, largely ceding what was then a relatively small off-road world -- a world inhabited by solid axle vehicles with disconnecting sway bars contorting their way over seemingly impossible terrain -- to Jeep.

Instead, Ford focused on volume vehicles such as the Explorer, with an independent front suspension that guaranteed a far superior on-road ride, even if it couldn’t mountain goat its way up Hell’s Revenge in Moab, Utah. It was Ford’s strategy, and the company made a ton of money going that direction, so far be it for me to question it.

But Ford’s decision in the 1990s to kill the Bronco let the Wrangler roam free, with little worry of predation. For the first decade or so, it didn’t matter much; Wrangler sales seemed to hover each year between 60,000 and 80,000, depending on the economy, especially as Jeep starved under the thumb of a combined DaimlerChrysler.

That changed in 2006, however, when DaimlerChrysler had the once-in-a-lifetime smarts to add two rear doors and a usable back seat to the venerable Wrangler, transforming the former niche off-roader into a profit-making war machine.

I’ve always believed that Wrangler’s secret sauce has three main ingredients: confidence, community and customization. People buy the Wrangler -- let’s be honest, is not a very comfortable or tech-savvy vehicle -- primarily because of these three things:

1. They know it will go through almost anything that life can throw at them, and get them home.

2. Their purchase is rewarded socially every time they pass another Wrangler on the road with the unofficial Jeep Wave.

3. They can easily take a stock Wrangler and begin making it unique by adding layer after layer of widely available accessories.

The next-generation Wrangler, scheduled to go into production in November, will improve on the current one, but it won’t fundamentally change the secret sauce. It will keep its solid axles, made by Dana, which means it will continue to be able to do all of those ridiculous-looking contortions and can still be lifted for extra clearance and outfitted with big, knobby tires.

And here’s a kicker: The Bronco’s axles will be made in the same new plant in Toledo, Ohio, that is about to begin making axles for the next-generation Wrangler.

It looks like, two decades on, that lonely seven-slot grille up on the hill is about to get some company from a blue oval.

Frankly, I can’t wait.





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Thats great news .... I hope for makes it steer better then the Wrangler as my Wrangler steering leaves a lot to be desired. If they can make it feel like their super duties (also solid axel front and rear) they will have a big Overland crowd buying the Bronco
 
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This is great news! Looks like the Bronco might just be a serious piece after all.
 

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like the sounds of this....keep the good news coming!
 

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I am all for some solid axle love on a new Bronco, but I don't see how anyone gets solid axle from the news Dana will provide some drive line stuff for the new Ranger/Bronco.

The referenced Presentation has a page titled "Returning Home" with a couple of graphics depicting Ranger in 2019 and Bronco in 2020.
Dana_Ranger_Bronco (Small).JPG


And it appears that "Spicer Axles Featuring AdvanTEK Gearing" can mean Solid Axles as well as Independent.

Dana_Ranger_Bronco(2) (Small).JPG


Pretty sure the Ranger will be independent, therefore the new Bronco will be too.
 

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OK, so the Bronco will have essentially the same axles as a Wrangler--instead of better axles...

This is an improvement over Explorer hardware, but my Bronco has a Ford nine-inch in back--the greatest axles/differentials ever. Mine is fifty-years-old and has needed straightening a few times--but pieces of it aren't out on the trails somewhere. The ring gear in a nine-inch is stronger than the ring gear in a GM fourteen-bolt, and the complete housing, differential, and axles weigh over two hundred pounds less than the assembled fourteen-inch.

Score one for the original Broncos of '66 through '77!!

In the "Rebuild the 1966 Versus Purchase a 2020" conflict, the '66 takes the early lead. But it's a long race to the finish line...
 

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Well, Salisbury manufactured the rear differentials in Cobra 427s, and that's encouraging if Salisbury is called upon for Bronco differentials!
 

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If you listen to the webcast you'll discover a lot of assumptions are being made as there have been no concrete details leaked on the specifics of the suspension design. It can be assumed by virtue of the body configuration that there will be a solid rear axle, that much we can be for certain.
 

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I would assume the front axle would be independent.
 

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Pretty sure the Ranger will be independent, therefore the new Bronco will be too.
Bronco and Ranger can share a platform without having the same axles. People sometimes overestimate how much is shared between models when they're on the same platform. It doesnt necessarily have to be a lot.
 

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Bronco and Ranger can share a platform without having the same axles. People sometimes overestimate how much is shared between models when they're on the same platform. It doesnt necessarily have to be a lot.

This is spot on. It would actually be cheaper to make the Bronco with a SFA than IFS. We'll know for sure when the first prototypes get to rolling around.
 
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This is spot on. It would actually be cheaper to make the Bronco with a SFA than IFS. We'll know for sure when the first prototypes get to rolling around.
Why would it be cheaper? (serious question). I would assume they could use the same IFS, share development/engineering costs and save from economies of scale with using the same basic suspension setup between Ranger and Bronco, no?
 

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This is spot on. It would actually be cheaper to make the Bronco with a SFA than IFS. We'll know for sure when the first prototypes get to rolling around.
Why would it be cheaper? (serious question). I would assume they could use the same IFS, share development/engineering costs and save from economies of scale with using the same basic suspension setup between Ranger and Bronco, no?
I think he probably means that solid axles are less complex and cheaper to produce and implement than independent suspension?
 

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