So this weight limit thing. Will badlands simply not be able to overland?

[jaspercasidino]

im just asking if it will be able to carry this stuff or flip over

and asking why ford would design such a shitty car

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[Firefly]

This "once and for all" discussion (link below) didn't solve it. This won't either.
Some will do whatever they want regardless of some sticker on the door frame. Others will panic about some number on the door frame and buy something else.
To each their own and let's be done with it.


https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/thre...-payload-issue-once-and-for-all.10652/page-18

 

[Gamecock]

im just asking if it will be able to carry this stuff or flip over

This thing will absolutely flip over if you ever make a right or left hand turn. Cancel your res now and Run for the hills!

and asking why ford would design such a shitty car

There is no telling, other than they don't want you to buy, run! (Please post cancellation info with date in "cancelled reservation master thread" Thanks!)

 

[Drex]

right but the GVWR for these jeeps is almost double that of the bronco

Please stop. You are confusing terms and when you repeat this nonsense, it just gets worse with other people who rely on it. GVWR is the maximum total weight of the vehicle and stuff in it (close enough).

You appear to mean that the payload (the stuff that is not bolted to the truck) that can be carried is lower in the Bronco than in the Jeep. That is because they both are extremely likely to share a 6000lb GVWR and the Jeep is lighter than the Bronco. The weight difference between the two is the extra weight you can carry in the Wrangler. It is not a measurement of stability (tipping over) with weight.

 

[2Jeeps&PatriotX1]

Do you even math bro? Almost double the GVWR would put you squarely into one ton territory. There ain't no Jeep with that kind of capability.

Correct. 35% more payload on a JLU Rubicon vs 4dr BL 2.7

 

[Rydfree]

im just asking if it will be able to carry this stuff or flip over

and asking why ford would design such a shitty car

This type of crap is getting g real old on this forum. I can't wait until the Bronco starts getting into owners hands that really want them. People who post this crap should just go buy something else that they can get right now.

 

[Paul Gagnon]

im just asking if it will be able to carry this stuff or flip over

Don't order the full rack of Brontosaurus ribs and you won't flip over.

 

[wjfawb0 [hacked account]]

I see online that wranglers weigh 4000 to 4500 lbs stock. The GVWR is 5000 to 5800 lbs.

Two door sport:

Curb weight (lbs.)
3,970
Gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) (lbs.)
5,000
Towing capacity (lbs.)
2,000
Gross combined weight rating (GCWR) (lbs.)
8,016


Four door rubicon:

Curb weight (lbs.)
4,449
Gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) (lbs.)
5,800
Payload (lbs.)
1,351
Towing capacity (lbs.)
3,500
Gross combined weight rating (GCWR) (lbs.)
8,117

 

[Dads_bronze_bronco]

Youtube jeep overlanding. Don't tell me some of those loadouts are under their GVWR!

I don't see this as an issue. Rather it is all part of the build. Most of the overlanders have: 1) put in heavier springs along with their lift to manage the load, and 2) upgraded to bigger brakes (on the JKs at least).

For example: my '08 JKUR has a GVWR of 5500lbs, and a Curb Weight of 4317lbs. That means I can load it with 1183 lbs. Except, I have modified it adding ARB OME heavy 2-1/2" lift springs on the rear, (medium on the front) and also Airlift air helper springs when really loaded. I also installed the Teraflex 13.3" rotor kits in place of the OEM 12" rotors.

Does this change the manufacturer rating? No. However, the Jeep is capable of carrying heavier loads, and I do so. So do many other people.

 

[Used2jeep]

Don't order the full rack of Brontosaurus ribs and you won't flip over.

Definitely wear good shoes though so that you can stop!

 

[beachman101]

Please stop. You are confusing terms and when you repeat this nonsense, it just gets worse with other people who rely on it. GVWR is the maximum total weight of the vehicle and stuff in it (close enough).

You appear to mean that the payload (the stuff that is not bolted to the truck) that can be carried is lower in the Bronco than in the Jeep. That is because they both are extremely likely to share a 6000lb GVWR and the Jeep is lighter than the Bronco. The weight difference between the two is the extra weight you can carry in the Wrangler. It is not a measurement of stability (tipping over) with weight.

this clears up alot

so what you are saying is because the jeep is lighter it has a higher payload rating (AKA until insurance starts getting iffy)

not that it can literally carry more than the bronco.

 

[AcesandEights]

Curb weight + payload = GVWR
GCVWR is the max vehicle and trailer weight, tongue weight becomes part of the payload figure.

We know the curb weights and we know the payload, so we know the GVWR.

Really though, to answer the OP overlanding question, you just need to know the payload, and where you can place that load. The roof supports 110 lbs. while driving (dynamic) and 600 lbs. while parked (static). We know the payload is 1,170 lbs. (2-door) and 1,370 lbs. (4-door). We know the tow rating is 3,500 lbs. and the max tongue weight is 350 lbs.

So, you should be able to answer all of your weight related overlanding questions with that info.

@beachman101 insurance has nothing to do with it.

 

[lobbs611]

right but the GVWR for these jeeps is almost double that of the bronco

"Payload" is what you're looking for not "GVWR"

 

[Willwork4bronco]

this clears up alot

so what you are saying is because the jeep is lighter it has a higher payload rating (AKA until insurance starts getting iffy)

not that it can literally carry more than the bronco.

The Jeep payload isn’t really all that much more. Mine was 840, jump over to the Jeep forums and search payload and/or GVWR. Lots of complaints from sub 1000lbs. People just don’t realize the published maximum payloads are for the base stripped down models.

 

[beachman101]

Curb weight + payload = GVWR
GCVWR is the max vehicle and trailer weight, tongue weight becomes part of the payload figure.

We know the curb weights and we know the payload, so we know the GVWR.

Really though, to answer the OP overlanding question, you just need to know the payload, and where you can place that load. The roof supports 110 lbs. while driving (dynamic) and 600 lbs. while parked (static). We know the payload is 1,170 lbs. (2-door) and 1,370 lbs. (4-door). We know the tow rating is 3,500 lbs. and the max tongue weight is 350 lbs.

So, you should be able to answer all of your weight related overlanding questions with that info.

@beachman101 insurance has nothing to do with it.

the payload for the badlands is way less than 1100lbs based on that other thread

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