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if Toyota brought back a manual transmission removable top 4Runner with a new motor, I probably wouldn’t be on here.. Toyota should have stepped up with a competitor for the Wrangler. I want a removable top manual transmission 4x4 and my only options are a classic 4Runner/landcruiser/Bronco or a Wrangler.
That's why Ford's here, to shake everything up
 

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I can tell you one thing, the manual transmission is a deal breaker for me. If this thing comes out the way it sounds like it will, with the 2.7 and a stick shift, count me in. If they go auto only, I will be purchasing a Gladiator...
 
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I can tell you one thing, the manual transmission is a deal breaker for me. If this thing comes out the way it sounds like it will, with the 2.7 and a stick shift, count me in. If they go auto only, I will be purchasing a Gladiator...
I'll deal with a 2.3t if I have to, bit again, ideal is 2.7tt

I'm waiting to see what happens with the Bronco, then I know which 2dr to get, or if I trade my Ram "down" to a Gladiator Sport+
 
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I also will Not buy an automatic Bronco.
If there were no Gladiator, I'd get a Taco

Who really wants an automatic for something like this?
 

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I learned to drive manual on an 85 Toyota pickup. Always have been a Toyota fan. looked at Tacoma TRD pro Manual. Really wish they would still make manual 4runners.
 
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I learned to drive manual on an 85 Toyota pickup. Always have been a Toyota fan. looked at Tacoma TRD pro Manual. Really wish they would still make manual 4runners.
Those would be perfect
 

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I don't know why it is so hard for manufacturers to create stick shift cars anymore. I am sounding like an old man, and I am not quite there yet....

But I will say that a standard transmission is this country's best anti theft device...
 

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I don't know why it is so hard for manufacturers to create stick shift cars anymore. I am sounding like an old man, and I am not quite there yet....

But I will say that a standard transmission is this country's best anti theft device...
They see it as a waste of money to develop because nobody buys them anymore.

EVs outsold manual transmissions in the USA last year.
 

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They see it as a waste of money to develop because nobody buys them anymore.

EVs outsold manual transmissions in the USA last year.
Come on America!!! thats ridiculous!
 
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They see it as a waste of money to develop because nobody buys them anymore.

EVs outsold manual transmissions in the USA last year.
Would the EV's of sold if the incentive's weren't there?
 

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Automatics make warranty protection of the drivetrain a lot easier too. Torque management and fuel economy are easier to control, all the while providing a Toyota like driving experience--which sucks.
 
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Automatics make warranty protection of the drivetrain a lot easier too. Torque management and fuel economy are easier to control, all the while providing a Toyota like driving experience--which sucks.
Got me there, thought it was full praise.
 

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