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Until you actually do your own testing and have your OWN dyno graphs that you didn't lift from another tuner (which I think is really suspect unless you're partners on it), I'll reserve judgement...

You're already selling this but haven't actually dyno'd a 2.7L yourself and recorded numbers???
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Looks like a great product if those numbers are legit. I see a claim of "retains factory warranty". How could this be guaranteed?
 

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Until you actually do your own testing and have your OWN dyno graphs that you didn't lift from another tuner (which I think is really suspect unless you're partners on it), I'll reserve judgement...

You're already selling this but haven't actually dyno'd a 2.7L yourself and recorded numbers???

Yes we helped co develop this product. We stated that in the beginning and are not hiding anything. I'm unsure why you think we would just rip someone off. 😔 we have been in the ecoboost community since 2013 and have a very good reputation. We would not do anything to hurt that.


Not sure I follow your last statement. On selling these. A co developed product means we have seen r&d for both had our input on both and made sure we approve of it before coming to market.
 

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Looks like a great product if those numbers are legit. I see a claim of "retains factory warranty". How could this be guaranteed?

We are not guaranteeing it but it leaves no trace once removed. Install takes 10min give or take. Something very easy to unplug if heading in for warranty work
 

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We are not guaranteeing it but it leaves no trace once removed. Install takes 10min give or take. Something very easy to unplug if heading in for warranty work
No guaranteeing it but says "Retains Factory Warranty" on the listing? I understand it's easily removable like any other plug/play device and you may not be caught using it but the risk is always there. Just rubs me the wrong way in the way how the listing states that.
 

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No guaranteeing it but says "Retains Factory Warranty" on the listing? I understand it's easily removable like any other plug/play device and you may not be caught using it but the risk is always there. Just rubs me the wrong way in the way how the listing states that.
I will note this with the product team. Maybe they can reword it but if you remove it there is no risk as its not traceable but I do see your point.
 

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do you sell to California?
 

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Yes we helped co develop this product. We stated that in the beginning and are not hiding anything. I'm unsure why you think we would just rip someone off. 😔 we have been in the ecoboost community since 2013 and have a very good reputation. We would not do anything to hurt that.


Not sure I follow your last statement. On selling these. A co developed product means we have seen r&d for both had our input on both and made sure we approve of it before coming to market.
Thank you for clarifying. So this is similar to the VRbox listed I assume? Are there any key features of the Panda vs. the VRbox that one or the other doesn't have that would make the decision any different between the two? (Aside from the fact yours comes with new plugs, which I love)

I'm not a hater (though my last post may have seemed that way, sorry) I'm genuinely interested and sometimes when things seem too easy or cheap to be true, my red flags fly! If it's all legit, seems like a great deal for some quick gains.
 

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No guaranteeing it but says "Retains Factory Warranty" on the listing? I understand it's easily removable like any other plug/play device and you may not be caught using it but the risk is always there. Just rubs me the wrong way in the way how the listing states that.
Oh man, like really? Do some people need a guarantee? They can guarantee if you're not an dummy you won't violate warranty. It's very simple what these guys are saying, as l long as it's NOT plugged in when your vehicle goes to the dealership - no issue! SO whether or not you will get in warranty trouble is up to you the consumer! But hey if you don't want to take responsibility for it yourself then just think it will break your warranty. 🥴

Sorry if I get anyone flustered, that's not my intent, but it just seem like this should be basic common sense if you read between the lines even the tiniest bit.
 
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Oh man, like really? Do some people need a guarantee? They can guarantee if you're not an dummy you won't violate warranty. It's very simple what these guys are saying, as l long as it's NOT plugged in when your vehicle goes to the dealership - no issue! SO weather or not you will get in warranty trouble is up to you the consumer! But hey if you don't want to take responsibility for it yourself then just think it will break your warranty. 🥴

Sorry if I get anyone flustered, that's not my intent, but it just seem like this should be basic common sense if you read between the lines even the tiniest bit.
I wouldn't expect a guarantee at all. Even unplugging the device doesn't mean that all traces are gone which *could* lead to warranty issues. The rub is the website specifically saying "Retains Factory Warranty" which may or may not be true and is intentionally leading the customer to believe that the product won't void the warranty when that isn't up to the company selling this product.
 

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I wouldn't expect a guarantee at all. Even unplugging the device doesn't mean that all traces are gone which *could* lead to warranty issues. The rub is the website specifically saying "Retains Factory Warranty" which may or may not be true and is intentionally leading the customer to believe that the product won't void the warranty when that isn't up to the company selling this product.
As someone who will purchase a Ford extended warranty, the warranty issues are important to me as well. These new vehicles are so expensive to repair the tech stuff on if it breaks I wouldn’t want to give Ford an excuse to deny.
 
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Well then gentlemen, the answer for you is don't mod anything on your vehicle till after warranty unless it comes from Ford directly. Ford performance should have some power adders coming as I'm sure you may have seen so it sounds like those will work for you.
 

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Thank you for clarifying. So this is similar to the VRbox listed I assume? Are there any key features of the Panda vs. the VRbox that one or the other doesn't have that would make the decision any different between the two? (Aside from the fact yours comes with new plugs, which I love)

I'm not a hater (though my last post may have seemed that way, sorry) I'm genuinely interested and sometimes when things seem too easy or cheap to be true, my red flags fly! If it's all legit, seems like a great deal for some quick gains.

Plugs and working on other Maps as we keep upgrading parts!
 

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I have to say the reason I chose Panda Motorworks was because when I looked at reviews on other forums for Vivid Racing's product which is very similar to Panda's and seems to have been announced first, I found less than stellar reviews on BMW, Porche, Toyota, and other car brand forums advising to stay away. However when I looked at reviews for Panda Motorworks I only found great reviews so kudos to you guys at Panda Motorworks for building that great reputation and take my money! ;)
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